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With all of the so-called “Official” threads posted, perhaps we need an “Official” thread forum. 😉

MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,879 ✭✭✭✭✭
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What constitutes an “Official” thread?
What are the posting guidelines or rules for such threads?
What if another poster starts a different “Official” thread on the same topic?
Who decides when or whether a thread is “Official”?

Please note - regardless of the answers to the above questions, this is not an “Official” thread.

Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2023 3:38PM

    @MFeld said:
    What constitutes an “Official” thread?
    Please note - regardless of the answers to the above questions, this is not an “Official” thread.

    Sorry, too late. This one. You just documented it in writing. 😂 🤣

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh Mark. Don’t be officious! ;)

    Seated Half Society member #38
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also “officially” nominate Mark.
    Pretty sure we have a quorum, any nays?

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2windy2fish said:
    I also “officially” nominate Mark.
    Pretty sure we have a quorum, any nays?

    Nay.😀

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Somebody better post a picture of a coin quick... not sure this is "Officially" should be an "Official Coin Forum"
    thread.

    Mark >:)

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,222 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mark_dak said:
    Somebody better post a picture of a coin quick... not sure this is "Officially" should be an "Official Coin Forum"
    thread.

    Mark >:)

    Quick? It's Friday night, we have all weekend to misbehave before the moderators get back. Where are the trolls?

  • mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @mark_dak said:
    Somebody better post a picture of a coin quick... not sure this is "Officially" should be an "Official Coin Forum"
    thread.

    Mark >:)

    Quick? It's Friday night, we have all weekend to misbehave before the moderators get back. Where are the trolls?

    One look at the BST in Trading Cards and Memorabilia will show someone taking great advantage of the weekend. Took the whole page with single sales. Makes Mark look like a choir boy.

    Mark

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just happened to look at the first page of the PCGS forums and you are so right on Mark, seems like every other post is the "official" topic of something or another.
    I really didn't notice until you brought it up.

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dislike the "official thread for coins of this date thread", because they are probably just going to die out, but I enforce the "official" threads about a subject, that have continuous posting.

    In other words, I think that an "official" thread should stand for a thread that is continuously updated by various posters. It makes things interesting.

    God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.

  • maymay Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I saw 6 a couple hours ago on the front page. It's like a plague!

    Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mark_dak said:
    Somebody better post a picture of a coin quick...


    Here's one! :p

    God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,526 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Official threads are all I know.

    What about us guys?

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I officially think Mark may have been under the influence of something unusual to him when he came up with the premise for this officially unusual thread.

    ;)


    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HATTRICK said:
    It's been said many times, many ways just a title note to consolidate info on a particular subject to a single thread to avoid looking up many threads on the same subject. Nothing official about it as this is an open forum. This is evident by all the $$$ holes who line up to troll and complain. You show who you are to all on the forum by what you post. LOL :D:D:D

    Yup. You just did....🙄

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm waiting for the official Vaultbox thread.

  • ExtremeengineerExtremeengineer Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    I appreciate you calling out this practice. If the premise is consolidation, doing so by year seems far too broad, and simply an obvious attempt to be the originator of a thread, irrespective of its actual value from a consolidation standpoint. So can I not post a 18xx coin anywhere but the self proclaimed “official” thread? What if I don’t want my question buried in the vagaries of an attempt to monopolize a year? I am not an aficianado.

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    I'm waiting for the official Vaultbox thread.

    Never gonna happen. Remember? The Mod closed the last one stating this incorrectly:

    You guys should just start a DM thread, the same 2 or 3 people every time.

    There were 12 different members that had posted comments and it looked like we were beginning to be able to discuss the topic.😎

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    I'm waiting for the official Vaultbox thread.

    Never gonna happen. Remember? The Mod closed the last one stating this incorrectly:

    You guys should just start a DM thread, the same 2 or 3 people every time.

    There were 12 different members that had posted comments and it looked like we were beginning to be able to discuss the topic.😎

    Doesn't it seem like PCGS just wants to shut them down? I don't exactly get it, but there isn't any real reason to shut them down otherwise. Even though there's always a sermon or even a filibuster, they have been less insulting than they used to be. I just don't think PCGS wants them discussed.

    I mean, they never shut down offal like "look at the silver I found in a bank box" threads. They don't close parking lot coin threads. But they always shut down VB threads.

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRHer700 said:
    I dislike the "official thread for coins of this date thread", because they are probably just going to die out, but I enforce the "official" threads about a subject, that have continuous posting.

    In other words, I think that an "official" thread should stand for a thread that is continuously updated by various posters. It makes things interesting.

    Stickies for some would help.

  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    Doesn't it seem like PCGS just wants to shut them down? I don't exactly get it, but there isn't any real reason to shut them down otherwise. Even though there's always a sermon or even a filibuster, they have been less insulting than they used to be. I just don't think PCGS wants them discussed.

    I mean, they never shut down offal like "look at the silver I found in a bank box" threads. They don't close parking lot coin threads. But they always shut down VB threads.

    I believe the difference may have something to do with VB having a business relationship with another prominent grading company and including those slabbed coins in their boxes.
    Unless a VB collector is considering cracking their coin for a regrade with PCGS, there’s likely no relevance here except the coins themselves- which are already graded- by another company.

    As for roll searchers and even coin star finds, there’s always a chance that some fine specimens and errors will end up going to our host, or another service, for encapsulation. A couple of the prominent roll searchers on this very forum have actually submitted several of their finds for grading as well.
    Can’t say the same thing for VB. It’s unlikely many will be candidates for crossovers IMO.

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRHer700 said:

    @mark_dak said:
    Somebody better post a picture of a coin quick...


    Here's one! :p

    I was led to believe a blank is not a coin until struck by a pair of dies.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now I officially have a headache............................

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2023 7:33AM

    @nwcoast said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    Doesn't it seem like PCGS just wants to shut them down? I don't exactly get it, but there isn't any real reason to shut them down otherwise. Even though there's always a sermon or even a filibuster, they have been less insulting than they used to be. I just don't think PCGS wants them discussed.

    I mean, they never shut down offal like "look at the silver I found in a bank box" threads. They don't close parking lot coin threads. But they always shut down VB threads.

    I believe the difference may have something to do with VB having a business relationship with another prominent grading company and including those slabbed coins in their boxes.
    Unless a VB collector is considering cracking their coin for a regrade with PCGS, there’s likely no relevance here except the coins themselves- which are already graded- by another company.

    As for roll searchers and even coin star finds, there’s always a chance that some fine specimens and errors will end up going to our host, or another service, for encapsulation. A couple of the prominent roll searchers on this very forum have actually submitted several of their finds for grading as well.
    Can’t say the same thing for VB. It’s unlikely many will be candidates for crossovers IMO.

    That is one theory. However, NGC coins and CACG are frequently discussed and they are direct competitors. VB is not.

    There are numerous CRH threads just bragging about finding silver. None of those coins will ever go to PCGS.

    Really? Look at VB5. Virtually every red core is a crossover candidate.

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @nwcoast said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    Doesn't it seem like PCGS just wants to shut them down? I don't exactly get it, but there isn't any real reason to shut them down otherwise. Even though there's always a sermon or even a filibuster, they have been less insulting than they used to be. I just don't think PCGS wants them discussed.

    I mean, they never shut down offal like "look at the silver I found in a bank box" threads. They don't close parking lot coin threads. But they always shut down VB threads.

    I believe the difference may have something to do with VB having a business relationship with another prominent grading company and including those slabbed coins in their boxes.
    Unless a VB collector is considering cracking their coin for a regrade with PCGS, there’s likely no relevance here except the coins themselves- which are already graded- by another company.

    As for roll searchers and even coin star finds, there’s always a chance that some fine specimens and errors will end up going to our host, or another service, for encapsulation. A couple of the prominent roll searchers on this very forum have actually submitted several of their finds for grading as well.
    Can’t say the same thing for VB. It’s unlikely many will be candidates for crossovers IMO.

    That is one theory. However, NGC coins and CACG are frequently discussed and they are direct competitors. VB is not.

    There are numerous CRH threads just bragging about finding silver. None of those coins will ever go to PCGS.

    Really? Look at VB5. Virtually every red core is a crossover candidate.

    Good thing OCC stickers PCGS coins or my post above yours might get me banned 😮

    Mr_Spud

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @CRHer700 said:


    Here's one! :p

    I was led to believe a blank is not a coin until struck by a pair of dies.

    I did that on purpose to see who would notice! Congrats, you are the smartest analyst around! :)

    God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2023 10:25AM

    @Fraz said:

    @CRHer700 said:
    I dislike the "official thread for coins of this date thread", because they are probably just going to die out, but I enforce the "official" threads about a subject, that have continuous posting.

    In other words, I think that an "official" thread should stand for a thread that is continuously updated by various posters. It makes things interesting.

    Stickies for some would help.

    Stickies would definitely help, IF and only IF the threads are ones that are continuously updated and posted on.

    God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRHer700 said:

    @Fraz said:

    @CRHer700 said:
    I dislike the "official thread for coins of this date thread", because they are probably just going to die out, but I enforce the "official" threads about a subject, that have continuous posting.

    In other words, I think that an "official" thread should stand for a thread that is continuously updated by various posters. It makes things interesting.

    Stickies for some would help.

    Stickies would definitely help, IF and only IF the threads are ones that are continuously updated and posted on.

    And that’s not always easy to know, in advance.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree.

    God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am officially part of the reason for this thread. :D

    My YouTube Channel

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2023 12:44PM

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @CRHer700 said:

    @mark_dak said:
    Somebody better post a picture of a coin quick...

    Here's one! :p

    I was led to believe a blank is not a coin until struck by a pair of dies.

    I don't believe that's a blank, I think it's a planchet.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭


    This coin was officially removed by eBay because I used the word " encapsulated " in the title. Go figure. Did not even give it a grade. Fits right in here with all you officials.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2023 6:42AM

    Crickets as usual

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2023 8:33AM

    My apologies, I had no idea there are 15 different "Official" threads. :D
    I thought you were just picking on me.

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2023 6:34AM

    The official Dark Side beaned coins...

  • Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I officially disagree.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @burfle23 said:
    The official dark side beaned coins...

    That's not a "dark side coin". Dark side coins refer to foreign coins

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shared a coin as a token of my effort to stay topical-

    I anticipate that a press conference will be announced that you are calling a press conference to share the unofficial responses to the official questions.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @burfle23 said:
    The official dark side beaned coins...

    That's not a "dark side coin". Dark side coins refer to foreign coins

    So made in China doesn't count B) ?

  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2023 10:43AM

    @Extremeengineer said:
    I appreciate you calling out this practice. If the premise is consolidation, doing so by year seems far too broad, and simply an obvious attempt to be the originator of a thread, irrespective of its actual value from a consolidation standpoint. So can I not post a 18xx coin anywhere but the self proclaimed “official” thread? What if I don’t want my question buried in the vagaries of an attempt to monopolize a year? I am not an aficianado.

    The OFFICIAL in the title only notes it is a thread of consolidation. Anyone can open a separate thread that is within the forum guidelines. Everyone knows this and only the whiners make up stupid hypothetical possibilities for an excuse to complain. The PCGS MODERATOR knows this and has stated it in thread closing posts.

    Stop all the whining and post something useful or helpful. B)

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Official" has become just another weasel-word, like "rare" and "authentic" - a word that sounds it should hold significant meaning, but really doesn't.

    "Official" is the adjective from "office", and "office" itself is a fairly generic word without a rigidly defined meaning. Do you have an office? Or work in an office? Or have an area of your home you've self-declared to be your office? Or maybe you just walk past an office on the way to your morning coffee? Then congratulations, you too can officially designate yourself and anything you do as "official".

    Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.
    Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius, "Meditations"

    Apparently I have been awarded one DPOTD. B)
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Official overused much like the phrase "breaking news". Remember the phrase "News Bulletin"?

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good grief... Official Thread?

  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I sense there may be a need for “badges” of some sort, awarded through an officiating body- to add credence to the whole thing. Not official yet of course. Just speculation ;-)

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OCC=Obsessive-Cumpulsive Certification

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nwcoast said:
    I sense there may be a need for “badges” of some sort, awarded through an officiating body- to add credence to the whole thing. Not official yet of course. Just speculation ;-)

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