2000-P Sacagawea dollars Reverse Die Crack (That's #11!)
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I found this first one months ago roll hunting.
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I found this one yesterday. Obviously from the same anvil die. I'm just wondering how many made it into circulation before the die was replaced or shattered.
Cool finds, the second one looks to be a slightly later die state than the first.
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Its a pre cud die break.
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Excellent. Haven't seen any die cracks that advanced on Sac dollars before.
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These are fairly scarce (think I’ve found less than 5 total) but I’ve never seen much interest in the market for them. Very nice broken dies
Here’s one I sold:
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1131200/Mint-Error-2000-P-Sacagawea-Dollar-Broken-Dies-ICG-MS-63
That is interesting. Can I ask where you found them?
Like @gumby1234 said pre cud. I found this on Cuds-on-coins.
Found them roll searching a couple decades ago
Where? Where are you located in this world?
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A little interesting that the ones here all appear to have similar stage of die cracks (including the one coming off the R in dollar and toward tail then star).
So how quickly did the cracks progress on this die? I don't know but cracks can be slow to very quick to progress and much of that depends on the stresses in the metal at the crack(s) under loading. If most are cracked similarly, then the cracks may have occurred very quickly. If the cracks progressed slowly, then should be many showing the crack progression.
From the mint website:
https://www.usmint.gov/learn/production-process/coin-production
"A circulating coin press strikes 750 coins per minute. The Philadelphia Mint produces 47,250 coins per minute if all of its 63 presses are operational. The Denver Mint makes 40,500 coins per minute with its 54 coin presses. That results in millions of circulating coins each day."
"Once the press strikes the coins, they drop into either a bin or a tray. An inspector examines samples for errors. If they pass inspection, they move to packaging. If circulating coins don’t meet certain standards, the batch goes to a machine called a waffler. The waffler bends the coins to form wavy lines before they’re sent for recycling."
A couple things from the above is the rate of coin strikes and the wording "don't meet certain standards..." which doesn't give much information on when a die is considered to be 'bad'. The 750 coins per minute would be 45,000. per hour or just over 1 million in 24 hours of run time (don't know how many hours per day they operate the presses, shifts...).
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United States, east of the Mississippi river. I traveled extensively and got rolls all along the east coast. I do remember I never found more than 1 of these at a time, and it was years between finds.
Thanks @lilolme. Yes, I've read most of that. It's a shame most all of this is speculation but I guess that's what makes this interesting.
Great! Okay, thanks. So you may have found them from roll along the east coast. I'm hoping not down in Mississippi!! 😂 😉 I'm just trying to narrow down where these things "may" have been dumped into circulation.
Well they must be common. I found two more. I don't know, how many could have been minted and dumped into circulation before the die shattered or was replaced.
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Awesome finds! I have never come across such a die break, little jelly lol
Well, that's four! Again, not sure how rare or significant this is but it's interesting. I guess the fed dumped them in my area.
" I guess the fed dumped them in my area. "
Hey now, are you allowed to say that?
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Where are you located? Maybe I should go there and look for these!
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It's a mess but it's all there, number 5!
Before an acetone bath:
After:
#6
Number 6 looks like a major cud was on the way.
They all look the same. Die cracks, cuds, retained cuds?.. Something!
Definitely worth searching for. On my to do list.
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This is number 7, I think.
Nice find for sure. Sometimes roll searching has it rewards.
Just a few coins away from big time destruction!
That's the one we all would like! 🤣 😉
Very cool @OAKSTAR !
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Can't do much with them. Just fun to find. It seems they must have been dumped into circulation in my general geographic area.
are you anywhere near connecticut?
No, mid Atlantic East Coast.
That's number 9. I must have missed one. I've been calling it a die crack. I guess it's a pre cud or retained cud.
That's number 11. Like I said; not sure how significant they are. Just some fun finds.
However, I would love to have the shattered die to go with these!!
Are you working on getting a roll?
I guess I'm headed that way. 🤣 👍 Wouldn't you love to have the actually die that created these things?
I still can't find one. I check all of the 2000-Ps for it, but it seems to have been dumped in or around your area, which is 1000+miles away from me. 😂
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Cool, I’m going to keep an eye out for one of these. The vending machines where I work give out golden dollars I. Change when you pay with $5 bills, I’m going to pay for anything I get with $5 bills and look for one
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Forget the vending machines. Just go to a bank and get some.
Good idea, but the vending machines give me something fun to do while taking a break at work. I also like to take a walk at lunchtime to check a Coinstar that’s in a grocery store about a mile away from where I work as a way to make exercising more fun.
Mr_Spud
I guess that's a plan and can be fun. Just don't eat that junk you're getting out of that vending machine! 🤣 😉
These are great! I’m amazed at how many you’ve found.
Thanks, so am I. You just never know what's out there, until you try.