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How to Ruin an Eagle

AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • RelaxnRelaxn Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No Sticker

    Dislike this strongly

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    or how to turn a $1K coin into a $12K coin

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shockingly ugly, and what an outcome for a wonderful coin!

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,178 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am just surprised they got the "featuring Lady Liberty in a feathered Native American headdress" correct.

    peacockcoins

  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t know call me a
    Bad coin collector but I really don’t see anything wrong with a jeweler making jewelry out of coins. Just as I don’t see anything wrong with overstrikes that aren’t made to deceive

    I don’t like however that particular piece of jewelry

    Martin

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To add insult to injury, the prongs cover the date. :s

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When people have money to burn............

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 21, 2023 10:46AM

    .........the buyer that is!

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One word UGLY

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  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jeez. Think an overlaid painted booger would look better than that blingy stuff. $13.5K price tag also makes it uglier.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rather than “How to ruin an Eagle” the designer (and/or a potential buyer) might state “How to improve a common $10 gold piece”

    I dislike the look of it, but I see nothing wrong with the practice. That said, I hope that especially rare and/or high quality coins are exempt from such practices.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Honestly it would look a lot better without the diamonds. I think it's fine as long as they aren't using problem-free or unc $10 Indians for these, likely they are sourcing from dealer cast-offs at a discount(and for most profit).
    Kind of a bummer that the bezel obscures the date, that is an awful design decision.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    why?

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a waste of a perfectly good coin 🤨

  • scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If they didn't cover the date and add those tacky diamonds, it wouldn't be half bad. Still not my style though, I would rather just have the coin for much less. :)

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How to ruin a Reale.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gaudy, certainly didn't consider the natural beauty of the coin and the significance of the date. Looks like costume jewelry. IMO

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    How to ruin a Reale.

    It actually looks like it was placed into the jewelry properly without any damage to it.

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  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reale looks cool to me, the Eagle not so much.

    I kinda like some of the cloisonne enameled coins too like this one... ive seen them in pendants before

    It's all about what the people want...

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought it was illegal to deface a US coin. Am I wrong?
    Not a fan of such stuff for sure.
    Putting one in a bezel with a chain is just fine but damaging a coin for profit ought to be outlawed.
    bob :)
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  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 21, 2023 3:51PM

    My only problem with it is that I think it’s ugly. At least there’s still a coin there. Who knows how many junk/scrap $10 Indians have been melted to make ugly jewelry?
    I’ve got some coins that could be made into jewelry and it would be an improvement. I don’t like the execution on this one, though. Also, I don’t have $13k to spend on it, so maybe I’m not their target market.
    The reale looks pretty cool. Very Pirates of the Caribbean.

    *fixed my typo. Time to work on the fat fingers.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $20 Indians ??? I don't think I have ever seen one of those. @ShaunBC5

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShaunBC5 said:
    My only problem with it is that I think it’s ugly. At least there’s still a coin there. Who knows how many junk/scrap $20 Indians have been melted to make ugly jewelry?
    I’ve got some coins that could be made into jewelry and it would be an improvement. I don’t like the execution on this one, though. Also, I don’t have $13k to spend on it, so maybe I’m not their target market.
    The reale looks pretty cool. Very Pirates of the Caribbean.

    I’m aware of very few $20 Indians 😉 that would be candidates for melting or jewelry.

    In fact, the only one that quickly comes to mind is Judd 1776. 🫢😧

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld I don't think Judd 1776 is a candidate for the melting pot. LOL

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tacky.

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry. Typo. However, you could probably do just about anything you want with a $20 Indian and it’d still bring good value. Fixed the typo.

  • 3stars3stars Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    How to ruin a Reale.

    where was this? my wife loves the eight armed creatures

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:
    I thought it was illegal to deface a US coin. Am I wrong?
    Not a fan of such stuff for sure.
    Putting one in a bezel with a chain is just fine but damaging a coin for profit ought to be outlawed.
    bob :)
    vegas baby!

    Disclaimer - I am NOT a lawyer.

    That said, I THINK that 'Title 18 U.S.C., Section 331' covers this.

    If I understand it correctly, the key word is "fraudulently". Altering coins for jewelry is legal, as long as no one fraudulently represents it to be other than an 'altered coin/jewelry' post alteration.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @3stars said:

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    How to ruin a Reale.

    where was this? my wife loves the eight armed creatures

    You can find them on ebay. Do a search with "atocha octopus"

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,222 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Relaxn said:
    No Sticker

    Dislike this strongly

    Yet somehow I look at it and get sticker shock

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is just marketing. Take a common date gold coin and put more gold and diamonds around it to appeal to a certain segment of the wealthy.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭✭✭

    gangsta! B)

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,956 ✭✭✭✭

    Pretty dang ugly. I'm an artist so I'm qualified to make that comment. ;-) Not to worry though! I understand they're only modifying 20-S's and 30-S's. ;-)

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is SHOCKING! Everyone knows it should be on an 18" chain. What are they thinking???

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If that's a modern creation, they probably used a circulated gold coin that was polished or otherwise unsuitable for a straight graded slab. What do you guys think of those Corum wrist watches made from hollowed out Liberty double eagles? I always cringe when I see advertisements for them. :#

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like something you could win at a backroom poker game, in Biloxi.

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