Would you grade this 1893 Morgan slider as an MS or AU?
goldrealmoney79
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First observe pic shows some rub or frost break on the cheek, but other than that not seeing any signs of wear. Considering the price jump from au to ms, if submitted to our host where do you think she'll grade at?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/305267749766?
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The reverse looks cleaned.
AU - The hair, hat, cotton bolls, leaves, wheat stalks all look worn in the photos.
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Slider is correct in my eye.
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It’s a super slider (high AU) that may have been wiped down.
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I lean AU.
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I'd guess AU58.
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Lightly cleaned AU, and that dig on the cheek next to her mouth will be hideous in hand.
The pictures are not good enough for an accurate assessment. But, based on those pictures, I believe the coin is UNC in details, but obviously cleaned or wiped on the reverse (second picture shows this).
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AU for sure.
The bigger concern for me on this coin is not whether it's AU or UNC but whether it's a "details". There's no way to be certain IMO from the images but I lean toward cleaning. The obverse looks quite wholesome (and Uncirculated to my eye) but the reverse is a different story. The entire reverse lacks the frosty surface of the obverse and the "protected areas" (I have circled in red) are usually a warning sign for graders.
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Is that machine damage through the ONE D on the reverse?
Not having the rubber ring within that capsule frustrates me.
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What is a slider ?...
It's a high end AU coin that "slides" between AU and Unc. In the bad old days, unscrupulous dealers sold these coins as Mint State, but would only pay AU money for them. It's one of the reasons why third party grading became popular.
A slider is a coin that looks like it is uncirculated but in fact is only almost uncirculated.
Sometimes the term is used to describe a circulated coin that has excellent eye appeal and would fool a lot of people into thinking it is UNC.
bob
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So many things could be wrong with a coin like this. It has eye appeal so I get it but coin doctors have ways to trick us. It could be whizzed or tooled. Just be careful that's all.
I had to learn the hard way about raw coins. At least if it were in a details holder you might know what's going on with it.
It's possible that it's a decent coin I just wonder why it's raw.
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Always a red flag when one side of the coin is in focus and the other isn’t.
What I see wrong with this coin is that it's not in a TPG holder but likely once was
This is a spectacular illustration of why I would never pay this kind of money for a raw coin off of lousy photos on the internet.
Those commenting, as a group, are highly sophisticated; and yet there's nothing like unanimity on the fundamental matter of whether it's been wiped, much less its grade.
I doubt I would pay this kind of money even for a certified coin from an unknown seller on eBay with a small amount of feedback, with really poor photos. But when we're talking about a raw coin, not a chance.
YMMV