Seller with 0 feedback on Ebay, would you bid?
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Looking around on Ebay and found two high priced coins but the seeler has 0 feedback, would you bid?
Here are the coins listed
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145432556219
And
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145432558212
What do you all say?
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It seems like it is some company/store using eBay to advertise and potentially not going to sell you the item even if you win the bid (which is against the terms). This line (I highlighted it in the screenshot below): "Please note This auction will be ended anytime, once we receive a confirmed payment from a buyer at our store." is what makes me think it is best to stay away.
I wouldn’t bid, and if the app were working I would report the listings. It’s possible the listings are legit, but given they’re being used as an advertisements for off-eBay sales, they’re in pretty flagrant violation of eBay policy legit or not.
do you live in Michigan? call them up. wBay has your back.
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This is an easy one to report. If it was a BIN and a little less obvious what they were doing, I’m sure it could toe the line like the bigger dealers do. But it’s an auction and it’s clear they are using eBay as an advertising engine.
Stay away. Looks like a comic book and trading card store and oh by the way....we just happen to have this graded rare coin we will sell you for $5,000.00 😂🤣
Not a chance.
Zero feedback is a red flag but what I find much worse is when a seller's pictures are 'copied and pasted'.
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No 👎
All due respect that we have to start somewhere
A lot of eBay sellers use the same tag line (especially dealers or folks selling motorcycles/cars) that the item/s listed are for sale locally so they may be withdrawn at any time. I also see quite a few bidders on the items and the items aren’t cheap so my guess is they are seasoned eBay buyers……
No.
Generally, no unless it's a really good deal or a coin that I need. If you don't get the coin shown and you pay by credit card, just reverse the charge.
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If they are completing all sales off eBay they are going to have zero feedback no matter how many happy customers they have.
This.
Ebay is 10x safer than BST even if you are buying coins from a Moroccan PO Box.
I think @U1chicago nailed it. They're a legit business but I suspect none of the coins they're selling, which are all high dollar, are actually theirs. They're probably selling 3rd party and if the bid isn't high enough, they will pull the auction.
Question for all who insist that a 0 feedback score MUST be a scam...
What feedback number did you start out with?
Most sellers started selling coins with a positive feedback rating after buying several coins.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I started with 0, as a buyer and a bidder.
My selling days came much later. That said, I don't let much get in the way of something I'm buying or bidding on. eBay offers certain protections even though our own "best judgement " is usually good enough.
No - Advise you stay away.
High priced coins - it’s highly possible they are not his. If one sells then he would procure it then flip to you. If he could not execute it then that’s where his BS about a store comes in. I think he’s a screwball / fake. For sure a dunce.
The other red flag is his zero feedback. He has a coin store? Get outta here lol. He’s so broke he can’t afford the $27.95 eBay monthly store fee let alone put some cheap material in there. Nor bought anything off the bay. He’s not just a dunce he’s broke!
Remember when their BS starts beware.
All about risk and reward. If I were to pay full retail for high risk, heck no. If you can make a couple thousand bucks, then I would say it is worth it in this scenario.
First, I would say test the waters and mention to the seller he needs to add a reverse slab shot and see what he says.
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No reverse slab shot on a big ticket coin! Pass! I only buy big ticket material sight seen usually off bourse at shows. There are no waters to test with all that stench lol.
I'm sorry, whose BS? The only BS I can smell is yours. Not surprising.
I have only encountered pleasant experience buying on BST, have even made friends. What has happened to make you say that?
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Nothing. I don't buy on BST. But "we" (the Forum) have had deals go bad and the buyer had zero recourse. I can think of two occasions where the buyer was left without compensation, including a very public spat earlier this year.
I've also had no bad experiences buying on eBay.
I've had no problems with house fires or auto accidents either. And my life insurance is unused.
The point I made is not that the BST is guaranteed to be a bad experience. It's about INSURANCE. You have zero insurance or guarantees on BST unless you pay by credit card which, in my experience, 100% of BST sellers are trying to avoid. On eBay you have 2 or 3 layers of insurance/guarantees. In all likelihood, you may never need it in either place. But if you're worried, eBay is the safer space to do business.
Seeing how the piece is already at $5600+ with 4 days left, I tend to think they won't be pulling the auction. I don't condone this method of dual-listing because even if it isn't a breach of eBay rules, it just begs for a problem if someone buys it off one venue and they renege because it brought more on another. Things like that will bring nothing but bad PR. Not a smart move, particularly for someone with a B/M operation. Word gets around.
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Not on that one but I recently bought a $200 item from a seller I was his first buyer (about 70 feedback as a buyer, zero as seller) That was within my comfort zone and it turned out to be a good deal.
I hope grandma doesn’t walk in there with grandpa’s collection not knowing what she has.
Is this normal, I have never seen a 1955 DDO where the date looked like this. It almost looks like a weak strike.
The moment this business takes up the skullduggery you described they are no longer a "legit business".
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Could be grease. There's also some damage there
With the softness on the rim to the right above the date,’
The planchet looks like it was rolled thin in that area.
If so, it would weigh maybe 2.9/3.0 grains or thereabouts,imo
Based on my experience, you can say the same thing about most coin shops.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Understood, when I have bought from BST, I have looked at how long a member has been active, if they actually post in US coins, and first exchange e-mails.
I have an one seller on BST, ship me a fairly expensive item while I was in Germany and could not send payment. He said, no worries, when you get back check the coin out, and you can either send the payment or the coin back. Great guy and of course I made payment when I got back to the States.
I've been in bought a house fire and auto accident but neither took my life...
As a seller on eBay, I have had buyers state that they did not receive my coin and I had to refund because the price of the item did not justify tracking. I take pictures of my package with postage and send to the buyer and I hand deliver to my local post office, so I take extra precautions... - funny this happen twice while shipping to North Carolina. One of those e-Bay customers also had a multiple accounts which I found out by the same NC address.. LIAR AND CHEAT! You have to select positive feedback button and then tell the "true" story in the comments.
Thanks for your reply...
If you want the coin no feedback should not be an issue because eBay cover it or your credit card cover it.
This coin was last sold by Heritage Auctions in 12/22. It discusses the weak 5 in the auction write up. I used the PCGS app and scanned the numbers…..and it showed this exact coin in the pop/auctions area. Last sold for $7804.
Their website seems legit
Undecided on buying
Nothing on BBB and can find no reviews online.
Might send someone by to check them out.
Odd it says text us and not “call us” but maybe that’s the new way.
Wow... tough coins but there are too many "if's" at play for me to be a bidder.
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I am highly risk averse; I would not even think of bidding on an expensive coin when the seller has zero feedback.
The bad things about eBay, at least for me, I have to pay taxes, that a big hit on high ticket items.
Talk to your governor.
I've seen questions about this seller (TS collectables) before - strange they still have no feeedback selling coins!
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There's a comic seller who has no ebay sales. Every one of their listings actually tells people not to bid, that only direct sales will occur if you call. I'm not sure why eBay tolerates it, unless eBay charges them when they end the listing. Their listings are always auctions with low starting bids.
Has a few other high end coins and comic books on their website. A different phone number too. Seems legit…..Hmmm…..
The look on the seller's face when you've won the coin...............
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Nothing about TS Collectables lines up for me. Troy Mi address on site is not a legit address. Nothing comes up for them in Oxford, MI and their phone number is from northern lower peninsula of MI.
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Maybe someone is fraudulently spoofing their BM business with a fake ebay account.
Possible
I know everyone must start with zero feedback...but let some other people buying cheaper stuff bring the initial feedback points.
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Anyone with zero feedback is just too lazy or dumb to buy a couple $5 videos before they start selling.