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Desert Shield packs from an old group rip from BBCE - UPDATED 4/25

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @swish54 said:
    Stupid question here coming from someone who's never owned a pack of these, but can you not see through the pack to see the DS emblem on the top card?

    That is what is so scary about DS. there is no definitive way to know without opening the pack. If I had a full box, I would always be questioning it. even if it were authenticated.

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  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    That is what is so scary about DS. there is no definitive way to know without opening the pack. If I had a full box, I would always be questioning it. even if it were authenticated.

    It's like having a case of 1st edition Pokemon base set boxes BBCE wrapped..... You don't know if it's just GI Joe cards in there!!! :D

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RufussCkingston said:

    @craig44 said:

    That is what is so scary about DS. there is no definitive way to know without opening the pack. If I had a full box, I would always be questioning it. even if it were authenticated.

    It's like having a case of 1st edition Pokemon base set boxes BBCE wrapped..... You don't know if it's just GI Joe cards in there!!! :D

    well, I wasnt going to come right out and say it, but since you already did...

    I was actually thinking you could pull the real DS packs and replace with standard 91 Topps and more than likely your theft would never be found out.

    truthfully, would it even really matter? The majority of unopened collectors will never remove the shrink wrap. The majority of those who do will then never actually open the packs themselves.

    I would feel very very uneasy if I were sitting on any DS unopened.

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  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @RufussCkingston said:

    @craig44 said:

    That is what is so scary about DS. there is no definitive way to know without opening the pack. If I had a full box, I would always be questioning it. even if it were authenticated.

    It's like having a case of 1st edition Pokemon base set boxes BBCE wrapped..... You don't know if it's just GI Joe cards in there!!! :D

    well, I wasnt going to come right out and say it, but since you already did...

    I was actually thinking you could pull the real DS packs and replace with standard 91 Topps and more than likely your theft would never be found out.

    truthfully, would it even really matter? The majority of unopened collectors will never remove the shrink wrap. The majority of those who do will then never actually open the packs themselves.

    I would feel very very uneasy if I were sitting on any DS unopened.

    On a tangent, I feel the same way towards those that own wrapped factory sets from the 90s to now. Most will never open them, but if they do, they will likely realize all they've really ever owned was a worthless brick of now stuck together cards in a neat decorative box.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There have been a number of Desert Shield breaks over the years and each time the packs were completely legit packs containing Desert Shield cards. I do understand the concern about the packaging from those early days but for those who bought the packs direct from BBCE via past CU group breaks like those who posted packs above, I would not have any doubt the packs contained Desert Shield cards.



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  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭

    Just sold at REA for $1860 !

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2025 5:22AM

    @EchoCanyon said:
    Just sold at REA for $1860 !

    Nice! But stiill, nothing cool about it to me as it displays zactly same as a regular 1991 Topps.

    I speculate if the DS packs had some differentiating marking factory printed on wrapper they would sell for more.

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, that is a big price. LOTS more than I would pay for that pack.

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  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2025 6:22AM
  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why did BBCE stop authenticating them?

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  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow I have two of those. I had planned on keeping one and opening one. Opening no longer an option. There are a lot of cards I would rather have for that price than these packs. May have to consign at The National.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,569 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's interesting how some in the collecting world loves topps tiffany and desert shield and then frowns upon OPC. Makes freaking no sense. I like them all.

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  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    It's interesting how some in the collecting world loves topps tiffany and desert shield and then frowns upon OPC. Makes freaking no sense. I like them all.

    Hey. I like OPC but don't care a thing about Tiffany or Desert Shield. >:)

  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭✭

    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:
    Why did BBCE stop authenticating them?

    Did they stop authenticating? When we did the group break of that box, I'm pretty sure the authenticated box was up for sale and we decided to break the box when Steve said he woudl encase each pack, since PSA will not authenticate/grade a DS pack. $150 per pack, if I recall.

  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2025 3:58PM

    @lahmejoon said:

    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:
    Why did BBCE stop authenticating them?

    Did they stop authenticating? When we did the group break of that box, I'm pretty sure the authenticated box was up for sale and we decided to break the box when Steve said he woudl encase each pack, since PSA will not authenticate/grade a DS pack. $150 per pack, if I recall.

    I think there was several CU-group BBCE rips with DS, but I believe I got mine in 2013. (If you scroll to the beginning of this thread, someone posted an invoice).

  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭✭

    @EchoCanyon said:

    @lahmejoon said:

    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:
    Why did BBCE stop authenticating them?

    Did they stop authenticating? When we did the group break of that box, I'm pretty sure the authenticated box was up for sale and we decided to break the box when Steve said he woudl encase each pack, since PSA will not authenticate/grade a DS pack. $150 per pack, if I recall.

    I think there was several CU-group BBCE rips with DS, but I believe I got mine in 2013. (If you scroll to the beginning of this thread, someone posted an invoice).

    LOL, I just looked it up. Mine is the same as yours - 3/5/13 break, with the gold business card on back. Man, I miss those breaks.

  • 1all1all Posts: 515 ✭✭✭

    That 3/5/13 break was right at the time when Steve was changing over to the BBCE shrink wrap. He told me that if I wanted to, I could send them back and he would re-wrap for free. If I recall, he was pretty excited about it. So, here is what my 4 look like from that same break:

  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭

    @1all said:
    That 3/5/13 break was right at the time when Steve was changing over to the BBCE shrink wrap. He told me that if I wanted to, I could send them back and he would re-wrap for free. If I recall, he was pretty excited about it. So, here is what my 4 look like from that same break:

    Cha-Ching

  • totallyraddtotallyradd Posts: 952 ✭✭✭✭

    Still kicking myself for not getting in on that break when I had the chance.

  • UFFDAHUFFDAH Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a full box of those bad boy packs at one time.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    It's interesting how some in the collecting world loves topps tiffany and desert shield and then frowns upon OPC. Makes freaking no sense. I like them all.

    I like all of them!!!!

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • PatriotTradingPatriotTrading Posts: 381 ✭✭✭

    I remember the Topps Vault had a full box at auction a long time ago. I believe it sold for $2k or $5k. I dont believe I was in the 2013 break but he did mark an earlier break some years before as Desert Shield

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