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Interesting New Slab from NGC

TomBTomB Posts: 21,236 ✭✭✭✭✭

Perhaps it isn't a new slab, but tonight was the first time I had seen one. I'm familiar with multiple-coin holders from NGC, PCGS and ANACS with at least ANACS certifying entire US Mint Sets in mint-specific holders, but I've never seen one of these "First Year of Issue" slabs.

I'm not a big fan of the multi-coin slab concept, in general, but thought these were interesting. Please note that I am not bashing them whatsoever and am only pointing them out. There are currently multiple offerings of these on ebay, but I don't know if they were a special one-off for a large client or are available for anyone.

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  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2023 9:03PM

    As for the slab itself, I think it makes sense from an operational and cost perspective. The large, transparent, plastic shells were already being used for large diameter coins and medals, so they only had to craft a different type of insert.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    Perhaps it isn't a new slab, but tonight was the first time I had seen one. I'm familiar with multiple-coin holders from NGC, PCGS and ANACS with at least ANACS certifying entire US Mint Sets in mint-specific holders, but I've never seen one of these "First Year of Issue" slabs.

    I'm not a big fan of the multi-coin slab concept, in general, but thought these were interesting. Please note that I am not bashing them whatsoever and am only pointing them out. There are currently multiple offerings of these on ebay, but I don't know if they were a special one-off for a large client or are available for anyone.

    I think things like this are almost always exclusively available to bulk submitters, to give them something unique to sell.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe a submitter had rolls and this was the only economical way to slab/sell them?
    These holders don’t bother me but I don’t know where they’d literally fit in my collection. Not that everything is uniform, but the multi-holder would have to be special enough to sit outside my normal storage and display methods.
    We’re they a TV offering at some point?

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The spacing on the three dates bugs me.
    I'd have placed a "P" on the first line after 1964 so it matches the "D" and the "S" coins.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,236 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShaunBC5 said:
    Maybe a submitter had rolls and this was the only economical way to slab/sell them?
    These holders don’t bother me but I don’t know where they’d literally fit in my collection. Not that everything is uniform, but the multi-holder would have to be special enough to sit outside my normal storage and display methods.
    We’re they a TV offering at some point?

    They're sitting on ebay right now...

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,577 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting concept is my first thought.
    On the flip side (?) Your putting all your eggs in one basket.
    It's up too you.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,236 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    The spacing on the three dates bugs me.
    I'd have placed a "P" on the first line after 1964 so it matches the "D" and the "S" coins.

    I see what you mean and agree with you regarding the spacing, but imagine more folks might be unhappy with labeling this group as 1964 vs. 1946.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You got me!

    peacockcoins

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With smaller gaskets those three dimes could have fit in a regular NGC holder

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    You got me!

    Just say it was a "mechanical error". :D

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am not a fan. Big slabs are a pain in the butt for storage. They take up so much room in a safe deposit box where space is at a premium. It’s why I really dislike slabbed large medals. They are also ultra inconvenient in exhibits and display layouts.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    do they have a slab box for that size?

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if it would be possible to use one of these 3 coin slabs in Mrs_Spud’s Roosevelt dime Registry set at NGC? She goes after Full Torches that are at least 66 and they have some where all 3 grade 66FT🤔

    Mr_Spud

  • rsei0120rsei0120 Posts: 127 ✭✭

    Very interesting, I haven't experienced enough to make a comment

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2023 9:27AM

    @Mr_Spud said:
    I wonder if it would be possible to use one of these 3 coin slabs in Mrs_Spud’s Roosevelt dime Registry set at NGC? She goes after Full Torches that are at least 66 and they have some where all 3 grade 66FT🤔

    Retracted - On initial read, I thought that you had some existing coins that you wanted to put into a multi-coin holder. When I re-read your post, I realized that you wanted to buy one of these multi-coin holders. Apologies.

    Now to your actual concern. I do not know a lot about the NGC registry, but assume that it is based on cert number. The coins in these holders each appear have their own cert number.

    From the holder in the OP:
    1946 (037)
    1946 D (038)
    1946 S (039)

    Edited to Add:

    Source: "What is a certification number?" @ https://www.ngccoin.com/about/help-center-faqs/ngc-registry/ngc-registry-faqs/

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,521 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe that's why NGC is so slow....I guess they can't say "no" to new gimmicks....I saw a huge oversize holder on a different coin, a modern, last week the submitter had asked for. Those a fan of this probably like Thomas Kinkade art as well.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If they made those holders the same size as their regular slabs. I realize this is about First Year of Issue labels, but I could see a market for buying Roseys and other 20th century coins in triplets by date in high grades in general. Presumably, they would be slightly less expensive as a pair or triplets than purchased individually. They are mini-collections within a larger collection, ideal for people who want nice coins for little fuss rather than selecting individual coins to taste. They're ideal for Coin Cable TV. Assemble sets in grades 64, 65, 66, or 67, one date at a time.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suppose it's a good idea. To each their own.

    Some people go for the novel items.

    Pete

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  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just for the record...

    The **shell ** is the oversized shell ($20 extra fee)

    "Coins over 45 mm in diameter or 9 mm thick are placed in an NGC Oversize Holder. Must be submitted on a separate submission form. There are two NGC Oversize Holder sizes available: medium (MSCH) and large (OSCH). By default, NGC will choose the NGC Oversize Holder size that it determines to be best for your coin or medal. NGC will accommodate requests for a specific size when possible. To request the medium NGC Oversize Holder, write “Use MSCH” in bold letters on the NGC Submission Form. To request the large NGC Oversize Holder, write “Use OSCH” in bold letters on the NGC Submission Form. Use separate forms for different requests."

    The **insert ** has three ports for varying-sized coin holders

    The **label ** is the "First Year of Issue" label ($8 extra fee)

    https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-grading/designations/ and https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/5151/First-Year-of-Issue/

    At the top level, it does not say these labels are restricted to bulk submitters. However, when you dig in deeper (https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-grading/labels/special-labels/first-series/), the label itself says "Available for Bulk Submissions" not "Available for All Submitters"

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