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D’backs and Rangers World Series

Phils down to 3 outs left. Don’t have a dog in the fight but the above WS could set the all time low in TV ratings and intetest. Whatcha think?

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  • PillarDollarCollectorPillarDollarCollector Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2023 7:15PM

    Seems that listening to the game 4-2 Arizona leads bottom of the 9th. I will listening to the World Series no matter who plays like every year. It is a tradition going back 3 decades almost.

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  • SmithAuctionCoSmithAuctionCo Posts: 159 ✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2023 5:00AM

    It is definitely not the match-up that MLB was hoping for in terms of ratings / revenue.

    Could easily set an all-time low for ratings by a good margin. The Diamondbacks home game NLCS tickets were selling for less than $20 - that shows you how much interest there is in MLB in that market.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think this is the worst case scenario for MLB

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Arizona has basically an all foreign lineup. The Carroll kid is a big watch though for fans and collectors. Texas has several interesting players, but also filled with foreign players. While i have no problem with whomever is playing for each team, I do believe having homegrown stars in the Series is big for ratings, fans and collectors. Carroll and Seager are two. Several pitchers are homegrown.

    But like basketball, baseball has become the game of the world so to speak. NBA has 125 foreign players. this would have been thought to be impossible back in Jordan's era. And baseball, outside of the pitchers, might have 33-40% foreign players.

    Football is dominated by homegrown players that were easy to follow in college. I think this definitely makes a difference in its popularity. However for collectors not so much.

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  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it’s a close series and they play good baseball, people will end up watching games 5-7…

    I’ll watch; I like baseball and the World Series.

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  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since my Cardinals were eliminated mid April this year, I've been
    rootin' for the D Backs. Got some friends who live near Phoenix.
    Wouldn't bother me a bit if Texas won it. Evan Carter is local talent.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s boring to have the same teams in the World Series again and again…very happy to watch the Rangers and Diamondbacks!

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  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 888 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    Since my Cardinals were eliminated mid April this year, I've been
    rootin' for the D Backs. Got some friends who live near Phoenix.
    Wouldn't bother me a bit if Texas won it. Evan Carter is local talent.

    As a fellow Redbird fan you are grossly overstating when they were eliminated.

    I'd put it at about 1 day after Spring Training started. :'(

    Worst season I've ever had to endure, but at least I had plenty of time for other things this summer.

  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    I think this is the worst case scenario for MLB

    Mid off

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  • kcherevkakcherevka Posts: 109 ✭✭✭

    Living in Arizona and a fan of the D'Backs, it is interesting to see the national perspective on this. Understand they don't get a lot of air time being a west coast team in a "small" market but they are a fun, young, exciting team and worth a watch. Soon to be NLROY, Corbin Carroll, leads a few other 23 year olds with a never-say-die attitude that will win you over. Give 'em a chance and go D'Backs!

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I personally can’t stand the way the MLB postseason is now. It may end up being a good series and it may not. But at this point you might as well randomly select any two decent teams to play in the World Series. Being the best in the regular season gets you nowhere these days, it’s just whatever wild card teams happen to get hot at the right time.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All professional as well as collegiate sports involve tournament-like play to determine a champion: NBA, NFL, MLB and NCAA. It’s what makes it fun when an underdog comes out on top.

    mint_only_pls
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2023 3:57PM

    @mintonlypls said:
    All professional as well as collegiate sports involve tournament-like play to determine a champion: NBA, NFL, MLB and NCAA. It’s what makes it fun when an underdog comes out on top.

    When’s the last time two NFL wild card teams made it to the Super Bowl? Never, and the best teams almost always make the finals in the NBA.

    Yes, you get lesser teams playing for the Stanley Cup, and that bothers me too. The NHL regular season is greatly devalued, as is the NCAA Basketball regular season.

    It’s fun when lesser teams get hot….until they revert to their mean in the World Series. I’d rather watch the best teams play.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The regular season is played for positioning in the postseason playoffs. Then…let the chips fall as they will.

    mint_only_pls
  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 888 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    The regular season is played for positioning in the postseason playoffs. Then…let the chips fall as they will.

    Agree. Sometimes the better team had bad luck or injuries during the season and had losing streaks as a result, and sometimes the best season record doesn't mean you're the best team. Maybe they just played in a weak division.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will watch the WS. Only baseball left until next April or on occasion March.

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  • FirstBeardFirstBeard Posts: 454 ✭✭✭

    I am not a homer for either team in the WS. The Diamondbacks are about base hits, stolen bases, etc. and exerting pressure on the defense. If you like Rob Deer 2.0 batting leadoff for the Phillies with a .176 avg, you may not actually like baseball. Also, the Rangers have never won WS. Glad they made it.

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 26, 2023 6:57AM

    @mintonlypls said:
    It’s boring to have the same teams in the World Series again and again…very happy to watch the Rangers and Diamondbacks!

    LCS tickets in Arizona were still available at $20 each game day. Even the Diamondback fans aren't interested enough to fill their own stadium for post-season games. Perhaps that will change for the series?

    A few more fiscally lean WS' and MLB might float idea of reducing luxury tax?

    Unless otherwise specified my posts represent only my opinion, not fact.

  • FirstBeardFirstBeard Posts: 454 ✭✭✭

    I would rather watch good baseball. AZ and TEX are just that.

  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭

    I love it. No Altuve, Bregman, and Co in the WS is totally fine by me! Pulling for the Rangers.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FirstBeard said:
    I would rather watch good baseball. AZ and TEX are just that.

    AZ had 84 wins this year. I’m not trashing them, that’s just not the level of team I expect to see in a World Series. Obviously they are hot at the moment, or they wouldn’t have made it this far. If you want the World Series to just be the final round of a tournament, I can see being pleased with this.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    The regular season is played for positioning in the postseason playoffs. Then…let the chips fall as they will.

    I respect your perspective. To me, the “limiting case” of this view is to simply have a tournament involving all 30 teams, incorporating various advantages/disadvantages based on the standings. Might be fun, but has no meaningful connection to the regular season, and would surely dissuade anyone on the fence from caring about the regular season.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 26, 2023 9:19AM

    @mintonlypls said:
    The regular season is played for positioning in the postseason playoffs. Then…let the chips fall as they will.

    I mean, the outcome of this postseason shows how little “positioning” in the postseason actually matters.

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just like in Gambling or Trek

    ..wild cards support a *weak* hand. In a man's game there are no wild cards." (Worf, "The Outcast")

    Unless otherwise specified my posts represent only my opinion, not fact.

  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 735 ✭✭✭✭

    @PaulMaul said:

    It’s fun when lesser teams get hot….until they revert to their mean in the World Series. I’d rather watch the best teams play.

    Who are the best teams?
    Should they forego the playoffs and just put the AL and NL teams with the best regular season record into the World Series?

    Are the Dodgers more deserving than the Dbacks because they won more meaningless regular season games?
    When Kershaw dominates the regular season then folds when there is actual pressure to do well, is that his "mean"?

    And who's to say what the team's "mean" is?
    Playoffs are a different game than the regular season.
    Maybe the team that performs well under playoff pressure IS their "mean".
    And 7 games is enough to weed out the men from the boys.
    Remember when it was 5? And some complained that 'getting hot at the right time' and 'luck' played too big a factor in such few games?

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RonSportscards said:

    @PaulMaul said:

    It’s fun when lesser teams get hot….until they revert to their mean in the World Series. I’d rather watch the best teams play.

    Who are the best teams?
    Should they forego the playoffs and just put the AL and NL teams with the best regular season record into the World Series?

    It worked pretty well that way until 1969 🤷‍♂️

    Are the Dodgers more deserving than the Dbacks because they won more meaningless regular season games?

    If you think the regular season is meaningless, I can see why you would be OK with the current postseason format.

    And who's to say what the team's "mean" is?

    The definition of “mean” is their average performance over all games.

    And 7 games is enough to weed out the men from the boys.

    Then why have a regular season?

  • EstilEstil Posts: 6,840 ✭✭✭✭

    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:
    Just like in Gambling or Trek

    ..wild cards support a *weak* hand. In a man's game there are no wild cards." (Worf, "The Outcast")

    That's what Bob Costas would say! And honestly I do miss the pre-1994 days of REAL pennant races.

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  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 735 ✭✭✭✭

    @PaulMaul said:

    @RonSportscards said:

    @PaulMaul said:

    It’s fun when lesser teams get hot….until they revert to their mean in the World Series. I’d rather watch the best teams play.

    Who are the best teams?
    Should they forego the playoffs and just put the AL and NL teams with the best regular season record into the World Series?

    It worked pretty well that way until 1969 🤷‍♂️

    My apologies. I didn't realize you were upset about this since 1969. I'll get off your lawn now.

    Are the Dodgers more deserving than the Dbacks because they won more meaningless regular season games?

    If you think the regular season is meaningless, I can see why you would be OK with the current postseason format.

    I never gave an opinion on the current format, but if you don't want to answer questions, that's OK. 🤷‍♂️

    And who's to say what the team's "mean" is?

    The definition of “mean” is their average performance over all games.

    Regular season or playoffs? You must think they’re the same. That's OK.

    And 7 games is enough to weed out the men from the boys.

    Then why have a regular season?

    If you don't know, then that explains your scorn.
    (See how easy it is to respond like you did.)

  • pab1969pab1969 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm a Yankees fan but I am rooting for the Rangers in 5.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2023 6:58AM

    1st game was very competitive and fun going 11 innings.

    mint_only_pls
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had left the game twice to go to the kitchen. Once bottom of 9th,missed tying run play. Then bottom of 11th missed homerun to win the game. The Rangers may hire me to leave the TV room more often when they need runs.

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  • FirstBeardFirstBeard Posts: 454 ✭✭✭

    I really like both teams (but not a fan of either). AZ feels like they are 2 years ahead of schedule, so this is all gravy for them. Amazing series so far.

  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 735 ✭✭✭✭

    Are Adolis Garcia rookie cards through the roof yet?

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