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A Barber Half Obverse Image & Partial Auction Description

TomBTomB Posts: 21,492 ✭✭✭✭✭

Please note that I do not own this coin and am not attempting to tear it down in any way.

In fact, there are a number of nice qualities to this coin that I like, but the auction description made me wonder if I was looking at the same piece. The auctioneer stated, in their opinion, what kept the coin from grading higher and used the term "only a few wispy abrasions". I haven't listed the auction house, the date of sale/description, the date and mint of the coin or the grade assigned because I don't own the coin and don't want someone to think I am attacking their coin.

However, if someone wrote that description to this image, would others think it was accurate?

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,178 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent photography!
    Certainly, the auction house isn't hiding anything, yet yeah- it is more than just a few whispy abrasions away from being a gem coin.
    The cuts and digs place this once squarely in the MS60- MS62 category, IMHO.

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  • humanssuckhumanssuck Posts: 449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ive found most major auction house writeups to have quite a bit of literary license taken.

    Given that they have posted reasonable quality pictures, the auction description is irrelavent to me.

  • RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buy the coin....not the description. That being said...I might have described it as "lustrous and well struck. A couple coin rolls and a small dig at the tip of Liberty's nose keep this coin from a higher grade"

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The description borders on misleading imo, might be deceptive enough that those who require a microscope to see a coin would be fooled.

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  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess it's all about how you define "only a few wispy abrasions".
    Looks to me like it's a heavy wispy :o

  • ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some of the wispy lines appear to be die polish from the photos. Otherwise, though, there’s a heck of a lot of dings on that one. But the pictures do show them all. I’d pass.

  • GotTheBugGotTheBug Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is it accurate? Well I do see "wispy" lines. More like it's embellishment by omission, given the other surface characteristics.

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Without giving us the grade the description could be correct if the coin’s grade is AU55.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,492 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I understand the lack of a grade can certainly color what one might think of the description snippet. For this coin it was offered in an MS63 holder.

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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • Jacques_LoungecoqueJacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 21, 2023 6:34PM

    What I would refer to as chatter and lacerated. Do you kids still use that term, chatter? 😉

    Edited to add: NO, I do NOT think the description is accurate whatsoever. To the point that I believe it’s a description misprint meant for another coin or a cut and paste error.

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    I understand the lack of a grade can certainly color what one might think of the description snippet. For this coin it was offered in an MS63 holder.

    That grade seems just about right to me,

    The picture of this coin is really large and I wonder if all those "dings" are that obvious when the coin is viewed in hand..

  • Elcontador1Elcontador1 Posts: 100 ✭✭✭

    I can see it in an MS 63 holder, but don't think it's nice for the grade. The worst Barber Half I've seen was an 07 P graded MS 65 that looked like Miss Liberty had a Hitler moustache.

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks much nicer than some MS63 Morgan’s I’ve seen, but I think it’s further away from the next grade than a few wispy abrasions.

  • BadaBlingBadaBling Posts: 104 ✭✭✭

    I don’t see this in anything higher than a 62+…. way too much chatter.

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,222 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps they meant "whisky" abrasions... the ones in my kitchen could definitely do some harm if attacking a coin.

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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be very heavy die polish, but it appears the date has been entirely whizzed away..

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "wispy abrasions..." flow so much better than "pecked by an anhinga."

  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like it was ambushed by a gang of insects with automatic weapons. I can't imagine that a description so rich in hyperbole would have much effect on a prospective buyer.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Possibly attacked by a local woodpecker", probably does not help sell the coin.

    Seems accurately graded and has a nice strike and luster otherwise.


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  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @robec said:
    It looks much nicer than some MS63 Morgan’s I’ve seen, but I think it’s further away from the next grade than a few wispy abrasions.

    This is correct.

    I would add the auction description does not match the coin. Sounds like a boilerplate description.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A few wispy abrasions like that could send a rather handsome lady like this to the hospital.

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