2 "can't miss" prospects retire with little fanfare
olb31
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The collecting world was all over Stephen Strasburg and Adam Jones when each came out. Cards were on fire. But both turned out to be just average with some great moments. I usually let things pan out a little before I start buying up people's cards unless its my favorite team.
Neither player's cards will ever be highly sought after.
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I stopped prospecting in baseball w/Gregg Jeffries…and unloaded my 1980s junk-wax cards to focus on vintage proven players (1980 and earlier…pre-junk wax era)
yep definitely forgot about him on my list. I bought a few of them when digging through rack packs. But I was wondered why he was so artificially inflated. He was a very slight guy. Nothing really stood out about him.
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Todd Van Poppel
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I think Gregg Jefferies was just the top prospect of the year, which just happened to be during the hype of investing in rookie cards.
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yep van poppel
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Ron Kittle had almost 100 HR after his first 3 seasons but I think he got injured alot after that.
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I think I had 60 Gregg Jefferies…R.I.P.
I remember using them as kindling in my firebox.
I don't know about Bonilla on that list. Expectations were high, but he was no flash in the pan. Pretty solid career.
Sort of like David Justice, who was hyped early, but was never really great. Pretty solid though.
Surprised a 'stevegarveyfan' wouldn't include Greg Brock on their list. LOL
as roberto duran said to sugar ray, "no maas".
Let's put this in perspective. I don't think you can compare the junk era rookie busts to the modern rookie busts. I think at the peak Jefferies was $10 at shows. Most of those cards were maybe a few bucks each or less. It was a lot of money when you were a kid, but it was really a small time bet. Losing those bets didn't change your collecting.
It's flat out incorrect to call Stephen Strasburg "average". Guys who retire with a 127 ERA+ and 10.5 K/9 aren't "average". He got hurt a lot and couldn't fully deliver on the hype but he definitely wasn't average. Career 1.46 ERA in the postseason with a World Series MVP, too.
You can throw Mark Prior in there too.
Wait... What? Are you trying to tell me this isn't worth squat?
Mark
It's absurd to conflate, say, Jose Canseco and Don Mattingly on one hand with Jerome Walton, Dwight Smith, and Sam Horn on the other. I mean we have three groups of players here, guys who were good, but not as good as projected, guys who got hurt and had to retire or just never were the same, and guys who never panned out.
I mean you can't have a group that has a guy who had a 127 OPS+ over more than 1000 games and a pitcher who had injuries keeping him from getting any higher than AA.
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Wander Franco - well not quite yet although since it will be newsworthy not sure if it qualifies.
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Fernando Tatís Jr - well not quite yet
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You got me, I googled him to see how he died.
1984 was the pinnacle of my collecting as a kid. Still have a lot of them. Even have the hand cut out from the bottom of the 85 Donruss box.
Every year 81-87 I picked one Topps rookie card to load up on.
In 1983 there were three possibilities I could have done quite well on. But not so much. I own more Dave Hostetler rookies than anyone you know.
OMG I know that feeling. I have about 100 Ramon Martinez rookies but only one Pedro!
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Anyone hoard Devon White?
I have a few of the White. Joyner's.