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100 Latin Crown type set

BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 20, 2023 3:56PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

I took a stab at creating a Top 100 Latin American Crowns list, beginning with the milled coins and ending in roughly the 1920’s to include popular issues like the 1925 Guatemalan Quetzal.

I have excluded proofs and patterns for the time being. I would love a Columbus Guatemalan pattern for example and if I owned one Im sure the set would include one.

A few likely criticisms for consideration….
1. Including several Necessity issues. I like Chile so there are a few there but could drop a few there. Could expand the Mexican WFI.
2. I have a Pillar 8R from each mint but not a Charles III, IV or Ferd VII largely because I favor the Pillar style to “old dead guys”.
3. I have tried to avoid a bunch of minor variants but your could argue a few are in there
4. There are some very expensive coins included. I have not shred away due to cost, more appropriateness for inclusion.

Thoughts and builds?


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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m confused. Top 100 in what way?

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 13,811 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dominican Republic ?

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 13,811 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What about this type ?

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  • AngryDragonAngryDragon Posts: 64 ✭✭✭

    That would make an impressive set

  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 20, 2023 1:18PM

    @MrEureka said:
    I’m confused. Top 100 in what way?

    I take it to mean the "Top", or first coins one might consider, when establishing a generally well rounded set of Latin American crown sized coins from the perspective of a collector / collection.

    Not top as in finest or rarest but, perhaps, in general completeness, so as to represent as much of Latin America in a set of world crowns as can reasonably be done without getting into esoteric pieces.

    Of course Brian may be thinking about this in a completely different way, in which case he's got some explaining to do.

    *edit for missing word

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 20, 2023 1:43PM

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I’m confused. Top 100 in what way?

    I take it to mean the "Top", or first coins one might consider, when establishing a generally well rounded set of Latin American crown sized coins from the perspective of a collector / collection.

    Not top as in finest or rarest but, perhaps, in general completeness, so as to represent as much of Latin America in a set of world crowns as can reasonably be done without getting into esoteric pieces.

    Of course Brian may be thinking about this in a completely different way, in which case he's got some explaining to do.

    *edit for missing word

    That’s pretty much it. 100 coins to make up a type set of Latin America.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    Dominican Republic ?

    I included the 1891 but not the 1897. Could do both.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    What about this type ?

    Yes, there are a few Brazil 2000Rs I could also include

  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 20, 2023 8:12PM

    This would make for a great type set! f you want to add counterstamped crown-sized issues, Guadeloupe and Jamaica would be good additions.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @Boosibri said:

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I’m confused. Top 100 in what way?

    I take it to mean the "Top", or first coins one might consider, when establishing a generally well rounded set of Latin American crown sized coins from the perspective of a collector / collection.

    Not top as in finest or rarest but, perhaps, in general completeness, so as to represent as much of Latin America in a set of world crowns as can reasonably be done without getting into esoteric pieces.

    Of course Brian may be thinking about this in a completely different way, in which case he's got some explaining to do.

    *edit for missing word

    That’s pretty much it. 100 coins to make up a type set of Latin America.

    100 coins sounds impossibly light. But if that’s what you told your wife, I’ll back you up.

    Ha, not a goal by any means. I told her I sold some coins recently and she asked if that was really a good idea. She is a keeper

  • jdmernjdmern Posts: 286 ✭✭✭

    Couple of possible additions-

    Cuban souvenir peso & ABC peso (I know a bit later but still a really neat type)

    1863 Venezuela 10 Reales

    Justin Meunier

    Boardwalk Numismatics

  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know nothing about Latin American coins but a 100 crown type set would be an awesome collection.

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m not sure about “impossibly light”. It seems like a good, pretty comprehensive list of the better known Latin American crowns. And it would be an amazing showcase once complete.

    This would be fun to do for Latin American gold type as well…

  • ELuisELuis Posts: 746 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2023 5:45AM

    Edit:
    Wonder how many years can take to fill all or almost all.

    Just a minor typo on Volcano:

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:

    Ha, not a goal by any means. I told her I sold some coins recently and she asked if that was really a good idea. Hi She is a keeper>

    It probably was not 🤣 I was excited to see you do a complete pillar set, but I can’t wait to see what you come up with here.

    Which Peru and Guatemala pillar eights did you keep? I assume you kept a type set of Guatemalan pillars also?

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  • realeswatcherrealeswatcher Posts: 338 ✭✭✭

    Interesting concept, and obviously a lot of people do some version of Latin American crown type collections. However, I think it's silly/impossible to put an actual set number on it. Something like VAMs or Overtons... all just varieties of the same basic thing, so sure, slap an arbitrary round cutoff number on it. These are all entirely different beasts though... You have try to make a cutoff and let people quibble over whether Fred McGriff belongs, but that should decide the number, not the other way around.

    A few specific thoughts:

    -- Hard to figure out Mexico Indepence eras... but also, there HAS to be some Mex. Revolution in here.

    -- As touched on above, a few Cuban and Dominican probably missing. The 1897 Dominican Peso is actually really interesting as a type as it's the rare debased crown-size coin.

    -- El Salvador 1925 colon should be there... gets included in a lot of Latin Amer crown collections.

    -- Lastly, Brazil... WAAAAAY underrepresented. I think (and I'm guilty of this) we ignore them because Spanish Colonial and Cap & Rays were OUR coinage, so right off the bat, it is of more interest here... and Brazilians/Portuguese-realm people are very few in number here in the U.S. (Lincoln Av. aside) compared to Spanish-realm... but Brazil is the biggest and probably most important/prominent individual country in Latin America.

    Specifically, the 1200 Reis from the 1830s-40s is a notable/popular coin. You also have to have both of the prominent 2000 Reis - the 1850s-60s type (even though same design as the 1200R) plus the Dom Pedro II portrait shown above.

  • realeswatcherrealeswatcher Posts: 338 ✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2023 7:33AM

    Oh, and, DUH... Aesthetic preferences are irrelevant - any "top" list of Latin American crowns HAS TO include cob 8R!!!

    And how about a Mexico klippe?

    Though this is cherrypicking from a subset of cobs (even though C&J aren't "technically" considered cobs... but they're close)... this coin would walk into that Top 100 locker room shower, glance around and chuckle (though perhaps not as loud if 10-20 of his long-lost shipwrecked brothers arrive and say "Hey, too late to try out??"):

  • jgennjgenn Posts: 734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice list! One example from each country in the list would make a great short set of Latin crowns.

  • bosoxbosox Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2023 12:10AM

    From experience, I know such lists create both positive debate and some not so positive feedback. I wish you the former and applaud your effort. The naysayers rarely appreciate the experience acquired from years of collecting a series.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent log term project

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