1974 Not aluminum or steel Clad -Bronze
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Attn Fredwienburg: this is what the coin looked like when I first found it. I removed most of the copper in salt and vinegar because it wasn’t magnetic. This was many years ago when I first started hunting Lincoln Cents. I don’t believe anyone in here can tell me exactly what it is! I’m glad I could grab your attention. I do appreciate your expert opinion, so Thank you. Don’t think I don’t
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Anyone know where to start with this one?
Perhaps in the first thread OP made about this same coin?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1094601/1974-not-aluminum-or-steel-clad-bronze
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I'll try.
Copper cents are not magnetic. So I don't know what that reference is meant to denote.
I see a regular, environmentally damaged cent.
Did you weigh it? I suspect it weighs correctly.
You can't remove copper with salt and vinegar. It does make the coins look more pink by removing the toning, however.
What does it look like now with the alleged copper removed?
You tag someone with the @ symbol.
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I believe everyone in here can tell you what it is.
Non magnetic because it looked just like the steel-clad bronze cent. Salt and vinegar can electroplate the copper back on it. It weighs under 3.1. As is. 3.02 is what it weighs now. I’m not saying I know what it is. I didn’t mention I also Used E-Z clean. Thanks for letting me know to use the @ symbol since this that was my first day on here. I was making sure I’m talking to the Fred Weinberg. Congratulations on your retirement. You know as well as I do there are things that mint does not like to come forward with. The first allegation of the aluminum sent was denied by the Director in the first place. I’ve been doing this for 40 yrs. I’ve got acid dipped, silver plated, and fake Lincoln cents. Environmental damage, no way. I thought I was talking to Rick Snow one day on Facebook coin group. Wrong Rick Snow lol
Correct weight for a copper cent- your coin has been cleaned and scrubbed.
It is not the experimental pc. You hope it is.
Worth face value – just spend it spend it Or throw it in the trash so no one else gets confused
Destroying s coin to try to identify it...
That's fascinating. You can electroplate copper with salt and vinegar, neither of which contains copper? You're the one who said you "removed most of the copper" with the salt and vinegar. So, which is it? You plated it or your stripped it?
"Environmental damage, no way." Sure...sure...100% of the damage could be NFoster damage as you scrubbed the crap out of a normal cent. Whatever you'd like to call it, it is damaged. You said the 1st photo was the way you found it. If that's what it looked like when you found it, it is "environmental damage". If that was what it looked like after you scrubbed the crap out of it and poured chemicals all over it, then it is simply damage from you.
If you don't believe us - including the illustrious Fred Weinberg - then send it in to PCGS.
Salt and vinegar can dissolve copper cents over enough time. (Don't worry, I've tried it.
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It would take a very long time...or very strong vinegar. Vinegar is typically not acidic enough to do much damage. Certainly it is a mildly corrosive environment. It will destroy zinc pretty quickly. But copper is more resistant. How long did it take?
@Jlamzaf you’re right you have to put copper in with the solution. I’ve seen a 1979 graded by PCGS that looks just like this and here’s what it attributes “white metal”. There’s another problem with PCGS. Unless the mint comes forward releasing a statement that they used more than two types of experimental planchets, then then they’re not gonna know either. If you think I’m new to this then I don’t know what to tell you but I guarantee you I can attribute just as well as anyone else. The mint Director never wanted to come forward with the aluminum sent and if he wouldn’t of died it wouldn’t of come forward. We know the first one that was introduced to great collections was seized by the Secret Service near illegally obtained said that they were illegal to own. But ever since his son sold it to a coin shop in California they’ve had to release a statement admitting to experimenting on planchets in 1973. This isn’t my first day but thanks for your opinion
Have it shot with an XRF gun.
Congratulations on your second day!
No one who knows anything about coins starts by scrubbing an alleged experimental planchet with EZ clean and salt & vinegar. So, respectfully, I doubt very much that you can "attribute as well as anyone else". And you certainly wouldn't take a coin with an alleged planchet composition difference and try to strip (or plate) the copper.
Based on what he wrote About 1974 and 1974-D aluminum cents,
(none of it is correct or coherent), I think tomorrow is his first day
@ Fredweinberg. I have a Technetics metal detector and when I put this underneath it, it reads nickel, zinc, aluminum, and dime. It mostly bounces back-and-forth from dime to zinc. But it’s all over the place. I know a lot about the mint and some of the things that they do. Like the 1999 mule clash is not a mule clash, and whoever attribute of that! Someone ground down a pair of working hubs and press the Lincoln cent over the top of it! They were not to opposing dies as it was characterized! I’m sorry but I know a lot more propaganda Goes on than I think most people do
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Is it just PCGS? Have you been successful with NGC or ANACS? You make it sound like PCGS is the one with the problem.
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Junk threads like this leave me feeling like a grade 97 - Environmental Damage.
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At least give it for its melt value.
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As the forum recidivist, I predict that one more outburst like that will put your avatar behind bars.
Then, you have to give something good away to one of these peeps whom you insult when they let it out.
Forum rules.
Now, you have a detector that sniffs dime?
I want to see a metal detector that you strap to a dog’s belly so that you can stealth detect.
Ah. That makes sense.
How long does it take to dissolve an experimental composition planchet?
How can we know that until we know what it's made of?
Hmmm...I sense sarcasm.
So, 40 years ago you scrubbed this coin with EZ clean and salt and vinegar. And in the interim...? You checked it with a magnet and found it behaves like a normal cent. You weighed it and found it weighs correctly for a normal cent. You called for Fred Weinberg who told you it was a normal cent. You showed all of us who told you it's a normal cent. So, of course, all of the evidence convinced you that it must not be a normal cent.
Makes cents...
I now know why Fred retired: it was the only way to quit drinking.
I have a Technetics metal detector and when I put this underneath it, it reads nickel, zinc, aluminum, and dime. It mostly bounces back-and-forth from dime to zinc.
Since when is "dime" considered an element?
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Is this whole conversation with an AI? Something very off. Is it cent or sent? I think the AI is having issues determining the difference.
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The AI would have (not of) gotten the grammar correct. The AI also would not have made a mistake with the homonyms since it doesn't actually hear.
Great quote:
I’m sorry but I know a lot more propaganda Goes on than I think most people do"
It’s sloppy voice-to-text.