PCGS Restoration Before and Afters - Morgan Dollars

ProofCollection

I just got the results of another restoration submission. Posting the results here as a reference for people to see what to expect from restoration. The goal of the restoration was not to improve grades just to improve appearance. No grade changes were achieved.

I did one coin from this sub separate as a GTG: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1094266/1887-6-o-morgan-dollar-restoration-gtg

1886 MS64DMPL Before:

1886 MS64DMPL After:
Happy to see that the ugly "rust" toning is gone.

1891-O MS63 Before:

1891-O MS63 After:
Super happy to have removed the yellowish tinge/tone.

1882-CC MS64DMPL Before:

1882-CC MS64DMPL After:
Again happy to see the toning cleared right up! Wow those mirrors!

1880-CC MS63PL Before:

1880-CC MS63PL After:
Nice to have restored a white appearance but disappointed that it didn't improve the mirrors.

bigjpst

Interesting results. FWIW, I kinda preferred most of the before coins except the 82cc which looked more like old bad dip residue than toning. That coin looks much better IMO.

LeeBone

@bigjpst said:
Interesting results. FWIW, I kinda preferred most of the before coins except the 82cc which looked more like old bad dip residue than toning. That coin looks much better IMO.

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DennisH

I like all of the "afters".

BTW, your 1880-CC is a VAM 5 (8 over 7 High Overdate) Top 100.

pcgscacgold

I like the after coins. Looks like they did a good job removing the toning. The 91-O looks great now.

ProofCollection

@DennisH said:
I like all of the "afters".

BTW, your 1880-CC is a VAM 5 (8 over 7 High Overdate) Top 100.

I know... I need to find a straight coin to replace it which is why I left it in the straight holder. Also the guide price is higher for the straight 80-CC, as odd as that is.

Morgan13

They look nice. I have a couple with that tannin issue. I wonder what they use to remove it. I have tried ezest once and ms70 with no luck. It's been soaking in acetone for around 20 days and has become lighter. It looks like they have something that works quickly though.
I'd love to find out.

lilolme

@ProofCollection said:
1880-CC MS63PL Before:

1880-CC MS63PL After:
Nice to have restored a white appearance but disappointed that it didn't improve the mirrors.

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On the 1880-CC PL/DMPL - there are some/many of this date in PL/DMPL that have hazy looking or not clear field mirrors. Having talked to some people who 'should' know, I am told it won't come off (without damaging/stripping the surface). I am not sure what it is or why on this date more. I could speculate but... not. Now, there could be 1880CC PL's with clear mirrors that have developed a typical haze and will restore like others. But some/many won't. And then there are some with a little frost to the field mirrors and some with the die polish lines. Overall 1880CC is clearly the toughest 1880-85 CC PL/DMPL to find.

ChrisH821

I much prefer the 91-O before restoration.
The others seem to have come out nice.

Manifest_Destiny

82-cc looks awesome.

braddick

Copy/Pasted the following:

"RESTORATION"
noun [ C or U ]
US /ˌres.təˈreɪ.ʃən/ UK /ˌres.tərˈeɪ.ʃən/

-The act or process of returning something to its earlier good condition or position, or to its owner:

-The first task following the disaster was the restoration of clean water supplies.
-Restoration work on the Sistine Chapel ceiling is now complete.
-A large majority of the population is demanding the restoration of the former government.

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People also ask:
What is the proper definition of "CLEANING"?
-The act of removing dirt or something undesirable. Give it a good cleaning before you put it away.

SilverPlatinum

So does PCGS write "Cleaned" now on the label?

johnny010

I think they came out nice, but I liked all the before’s better, especially on the 82. Nice coins either way!

ProofCollection

They're not cleaned, they are restored.

SilverPlatinum

@ProofCollection said:
They're not cleaned, they are restored.

So does PCGS write "Restored" on the label?
Sorry just trying to understand the process as I have never graded any coin yet.

ProofCollection

@SilverPlatinum said:

@ProofCollection said:
They're not cleaned, they are restored.

So does PCGS write "Restored" on the label?
Sorry just trying to understand the process as I have never graded any coin yet.

No, there is no indication.

coinbuf

I think all the coins are more attractive after than before, nice results.

ProofCollection

@coinbuf said:
I think all the coins are more attractive after than before, nice results.

Thanks! I know there is affection by some collectors for "crusty" or toned coins, but I'm doubting any coin store owners have people come in and look at the showcase and say, "All your coins are bright and shiny, do you have any that are yellow and crusty?" I have no doubt that I have increased the re-sale price and overall desirability with these results. I'm especially happy with the 1887/6-O in my other thread. https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1094266/1887-6-o-morgan-dollar-restoration-gtg

sellitstore

I find the toning on the before 1882 quite attractive and effective in concealing the cheek abrasions. The abrasions are more visible in the after photo. and, to a lesser extent on the 1891.

ProofCollection

@sellitstore said:
I find the toning on the before 1882 quite attractive and effective in concealing the cheek abrasions. The abrasions are more visible in the after photo. and, to a lesser extent on the 1891.

Like makeup.... lol. I know what you mean though. The high contrast black and white is super sharp and attractive though as well.