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  • scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would consider sending it into NGC to see if they agree. If they do, sell as is or keep it in my raw collection.

  • spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends on what you can see on the surfaces. If after close inspection I might consider a quick ez-est dip if it looks clean other than the color... or if it's a higher value coin I might consider conservation at a tpg... Ultimately it depends how much money I have in it, and if it might be worth the extra money, and what the end goal for it is... ie personal collection or resale. If personal collection, I'd probably just keep in in the holder as it should be safe inside.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd like to see the coin. But, I'd try NGC cause it might be a subjective thing. Good luck. Peace Roy

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    pics?

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since there are no photos and thus no way to provide any meaningful reply to your question all I can say is you must resubmit until the grade fits.

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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What grade did you expect? If it would be worth several hundred dollars or more it might be worth Pcgs conservation if you're not comfortable doing it yourself. Post a picture.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would want get rid of it.

    Depending on MV would get conserved or dip and put in flip sell as is. Then Possibly retry the grading process if MV justifies costs. Jimmy dipped his started on the bay at melt (raw CH BU) did ok.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,131 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are different degrees of "questionable". There is no way to answer the question without pictures.

    There are also coins that are barely with submitting once much less multiple times.

  • I'd have to see the coin to say for sure, but if I sent a coin in I'd be pretty confident of a straight grade. I'm a nobody in the coin collecting world but I have been at it since I was 9, and I'm 45 as of today. I think I have a decent eye for acceptable vs questionable toning, so I'd probably crack it out and try again, either at the original grading service or another.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,195 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Send it back for Reconsideration in the holder" I would reject right away-there is no benefit to this unless getting AU details next time would tank the value. You want the graders to see it without the bias of a details holder and raw so that the holder does not obstruct the view of the graders.

    Is the color attractive? The answer to that plays a role too. If it is not that attractive, a dip or conservation could be the next step. If it is attractive, you likely don't want to remove it and risk having a dull lifeless coin.

    How many times have you tried this coin already? If it has gone details more than a few times, it might be time to unload it. I had two coins I was stubborn on. One was a better date Morgan with nice color that I bought in a cleaned holder. I tried it two times and both were details (cleaned again at PCGS followed by AT at NGC). At that point I sold it in the NGC details holder in order to stop wasting grading fees.

  • humanssuckhumanssuck Posts: 451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldnt have bought it if i didnt like it in the first place. TPG result is irrelevant.

  • LazybonesLazybones Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Crack it out and submit ATS.

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  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I voted "Other", as I would keep it, as an example of what the TPG believes "Questionable colour" looks like.

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  • lsicalsica Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭✭

    Depends. How much are you into it for? Were you expecting to make money on it or did you get it because you liked the look? Is the toning "deep" enough that it would probably look washed out if dipped? Under the right light/magnification how marked up are the surfaces?

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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no photo, no comment

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did that with a proof Indian head cent. I just kept it as is and still have it in my collection after getting the QC about 15 years ago. If I ever decide to sell it I want it to be in that holder because that’s what it might get again if the buyer submits it to PCGS either raw or as a crossover.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @silverpop said:
    no photo, no comment

    This. Is it a blatant case of AT or is it a border--line case of AT? We need good pics to offer a meaningful opinion.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If possible, show it to one or more highly knowledgeable collectors and/or dealers for their opinions.
    Hopefully, you realize that a number of your poll options are meaningless in the absence of additional information about the coin.

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  • JWPJWP Posts: 23,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you send it back to PCGS or NGC, how much $$$$ are you willing to spend to get the grade you want. What is your cost threshold before you cut bait and live with it. Posting a photo might actually change the comments that are being posted too.

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  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It depends what the value of the coin is and what the difference in value is between a straight graded and details one are. If the difference in value is significant (which I suspect) and you think the coin belongs in a straight graded holder I would crack it and resubmit to PCGS or try ATS.

  • PizzamanPizzaman Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2023 5:54AM

    I'd have to see it. I can understand why they won't grade it, though, when the color is questionable to them. They could put the technical grade on it, that would help, but then they're grading for their market, and the color is a market grade factor. Years ago, when blast-white was king, we'd just go ahead and dip it and hope nobody could catch it. A lot of coin shops did that, I know. I could see me doing any number of the suggestions offered, here, contingent, though, again, on how the color looked to me.

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Given it's very improbable I'd submit an AT'ed coin, I'd crack it out and regrade it.

    You aren't me, though, so I have no idea what I'd do with your coin since I haven't seen it.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,357 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what grade did you put it at when submitting?

    if it does not look AT too many and is attractive, it could do very well in holder at auction

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2023 8:42AM

    Tough situation - Never experienced that.

    One option would be crack out, dip then send back in. Our have professionally conserved. Depends on how much MV we’re talking about.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,260 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2023 8:49AM

    @scotty4449 said:
    I would consider sending it into NGC to see if they agree. If they do, sell as is or keep it in my raw collection.

    When I was a dealer I sent coins to PCGS that they body bagged and NGC graded. I also a coin to NGC that they body bagged and PCGS graded. I did not dip or fool with any of the coins in any way. I also sold rare coins that didn’t grade that I layer saw straight graded holders.

    Having said that, you would get better advise if you posted pictures.

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  • FredSFredS Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    Need to see it. Some are so over the top they will never have a chance.

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