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The second one of these in the last couple months, claim ebay item arrived empty

logger7logger7 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 18, 2023 12:58PM in Precious Metals

"Buyer didn't receive the item
"I received an empty envelope on July 15th. I have contacted the Post Office and the Police Dept today. They will be looking into it.""I received an empty envelope on July 15th. I have contacted the Post Office and the Police Dept today. They will be looking into it."

I responded again asking for a picture of the parcel missing the 90% silver....No response. Same type of claim as the other one. Uploaded tracking into the request.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    same buyer?

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    same buyer?

    First time I blocked the guy for the drama he stirred up after the claim. Someone else, same script.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    does the someone else have the same shipping address as the first one?

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two different states far apart. Could be they're picking up the script somewhere.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Two different states far apart. Could be they're picking up the script somewhere.

    It would be very strange that two different buyers would be making the same claim. Is it possible that someone at your Post Office is opening your packages and then resealing them after removing the coins?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They're false claims as far as I know. The first one a couple months ago would not comply with request for pictures of the empty package, same thing with this one. Usps doesn't deliver empty packages if there is evidence of tampering without putting the damaged package in one of their notices labels.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If tracking shows delivered then as far as ebay is concerned it's between the buyer and USPS. You have fulfilled your obligation.

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Usps doesn't deliver empty packages if there is evidence of tampering without putting the damaged package in one of their notices labels.

    This is definitely not true. I received an empty box from my mailman that had been slit open and then resealed with clear tape. It was a slabbed Saint that I bought from a well-established and trusted fellow forum member.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @logger7 said:
    Usps doesn't deliver empty packages if there is evidence of tampering without putting the damaged package in one of their notices labels.

    This is definitely not true. I received an empty box from my mailman that had been slit open and then resealed with clear tape. It was a slabbed Saint that I bought from a well-established and trusted fellow forum member.

    in most cases USPS will double bag it with a note before delivery. This tells everyone the theft occurred before delivery and is grounds for an insurance claim.

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @logger7 said:
    Usps doesn't deliver empty packages if there is evidence of tampering without putting the damaged package in one of their notices labels.

    This is definitely not true. I received an empty box from my mailman that had been slit open and then resealed with clear tape. It was a slabbed Saint that I bought from a well-established and trusted fellow forum member.

    in most cases USPS will double bag it with a note before delivery. This tells everyone the theft occurred before delivery and is grounds for an insurance claim.

    Or if it's "signature required" the receiver has a right to refuse it.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow....reminds me of one I experienced years ago. Had purchased a gold Saint.... Received an email from the seller (before package arrived) saying another buyer received an empty package.. to let him know when I got my package. It came the next day... empty!! Contacted him, he said the thief was in his local P.O. and was already caught. Then he made good on my purchase. Do not know if the original coin was found/reclaimed. Cheers, RickO

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry for your loss. Perfect example of why selling PMs on ebay is a bad idea IMO.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I didn't lose anything yet; just the same line that the package arrived empty and they contacted the usps and the police with no follow up when hard evidence was requested.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    did tracking show delivered?

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I didn't lose anything yet; just the same line that the package arrived empty and they contacted the usps and the police with no follow up when hard evidence was requested.

    Yeah I hope you don't lose anything, but it seems like time and time again they side with the buyer. In your case I hope I am wrong.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

  • boxerdadboxerdad Posts: 46 ✭✭

    the numismatics crimes page had 2 different articles about shipping theft,one was UPS the other USPS.
    both thieves were in managerial positions.
    be discreet as possible when packaging items.

    i am dyslexia of borg futility is resistant your ass will be laminated.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    mark them "fragile glass."

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Machine parts" though the usps knows that a lot of coins and currency get shipped, most of little value but occasionally a thief gets "lucky".

    eBay closed the guy's claim when I contacted them. No evidence, no claim. Shipping showed delivered. Insured but we don't want to fuel questionable claims.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Insurance and a successful ebay claim go out the window once tracking shows delivered. It then becomes a battle between the buyer and USPS.

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • RobMRobM Posts: 524 ✭✭✭

    I use the Cologuard name/logo on the outside of all the packages I send.

  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭✭

    I mailed a special coin Tuesday, in an envelope, in a small flat rate box, which was then put in a medium flat rate priority with bubble wrap. Then I took a picture of the box with the label.
    Yes I wear a belt and suspenders.

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