US Coin Designs Around the World

Zoins

It's great to see US coin designs making their way around the world.

Here's a 2000 Morgan Lady Liberty combined with a Seated Liberty Eagle from Liberia, a country founded by Americans via the American Colonization Society: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society

Couldn't resist picking this up as it's both an error and has nice toning.

ricko

@Zoins.... Now that is certainly a unique 'one of a kind' specimen. Cheers, RickO

retirednow

Interesting ... what does the S mint mark mean!

Zoins

@retirednow said:
Interesting ... what does the S mint mark mean!

Not sure, but you got me curious to find out!

I did a quick search and found this list of Liberia 2000 tribute coins from Juno Moneta. There are quite a few designs and it would be interesting for PCGS to create a Set Registry for these.

http://www.moneta-coins.com/library/Liberian-US Millennium Tributes.pdf

DCW

I have the reverse opinion, John.
No disrespect, but I dont like seeing our designs stolen and put on foreign countries' coinage. Not like they were inspired by the design, and created their own take. They grabbed two of ours verbatim and muled them together illogically. Couldn't even be bothered taking off our San Francisco mint mark?
To me this looks like a private mint creation.
Are you sure this is the government of Liberia putting this out? I have a hard time believing it.

Zoins

@DCW said:
I have the reverse opinion, John.
No disrespect, but I dont like seeing our designs stolen and put on foreign countries' coinage. Not like they were inspired by the design, and created their own take. They grabbed two of ours verbatim and muled them together illogically. Couldn't even be bothered taking off our San Francisco mint mark?
To me this looks like a private mint creation.
Are you sure this is the government of Liberia putting this out? I have a hard time believing it.

I'm pretty sure it's the government of Liberia and it's cataloged by PCGS as a Liberia coin. You can see the coin in the PCGS Liberia country listing as coin number 391111 here on the PCGS Liberia country page:

https://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail/liberia/1393

Regarding designs being stolen, Liberia is a country founded by Americans as mentioned. One could claim that it was the American people that settled Libera that were stolen!

Here's a slab photo from Apmex. The vast majority of these are blast white, so to have a toned one is quite a treat.

retirednow

I pulled this from a web site ... looking at all of their productions ,,,, many of their non circulating examples seem to celebrate America

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55137.html

Zoins

@retirednow said:
I pulled this from a web site ... looking at all of their productions ,,,, many of their non circulating examples seem to celebrate America

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55137.html

Agree, which makes sense given the origins of their country.

Read more here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americo-Liberian_people

DCW

I see now. "Non circulating coinage." They seem to be kind of cartoonish depictions of our classic designs, hence why I thought they were private mint issues. But a quick look at our own commemorative issues are not much better.
Not for me, but collect what you like.
Your example is attractive

PerryHall

Private mints approach these small countries and they negotiate an agreement where the private mint designs, produces, and markets commemorative coins with popular themes. The private mints then pay the sponsoring country a licensing fee and a royalty for every coin produced and sold. In addition to Liberia, Tuvalu, Somalia, Marshall Islands, Hutt River Provence, Fiji, and various Indian Tribes come to mind but there are probably others. It's easy money for these countries to sponsor these coins and no work on their part.

Zoins

@DCW said:
I see now. "Non circulating coinage." They seem to be kind of cartoonish depictions of our classic designs, hence why I thought they were private mint issues. But a quick look at our own commemorative issues are not much better.
Not for me, but collect what you like.
Your example is attractive

I was originally enticed by this series since they had a Winged Liberty Double Eagle, before other recreations were taken to market. The Juno Moneta PDF files shows quite a few designs which makes it an interesting series to me.

Zoins

@PerryHall said:
Private mints approach these small countries and they negotiate an agreement where the private mint designs, produces, and markets commemorative coins with popular themes. The private mints then pay the sponsoring country a licensing fee and a royalty for every coin produced and sold. In addition to Liberia, Tuvalu, Somalia, Marshall Islands, Hutt River Provence, Fiji, and various Indian Tribes come to mind but there are probably others. It's easy money for these countries to sponsor these coins and no work on their part.

This does happen and it would be interesting to trace the creation of these, including issuers and mints. I wonder if anyone is doing this right now.

One of the more interesting legal tender issues I've seen is the PCGS 35th Anniversary $2 legal tender coin! Quite an accomplishment for our hosts in my opinion.

Vasanti

Some of their circulating coins are interesting.

Zoins

@Vasanti said:
Some of their circulating coins are interesting.

Agree 100% Liberia has very interesting coinage design IMHO. I like some of the 19th century patterns as well.

Here's the TrueView for the 1833 cent you posted which says "AMERICAN COLONIZATION SOCIETY". Lots of interesting history here.

Here's Eric Newman's specimen:

https://coins.ha.com/itm/world/1833-liberia-cent-token-ngc-unc-details-reverse-scratched-km-tn2-ch-1-variety-with-small-ship-fifteen-rays-and-wide/a/1283-15642.s

coinsarefun

@Zoins That is spectacular!!!!!

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I only have the regular version but toned in an old PCI holder so I sent it in to be graded and true viewed.
Yours would go very nicely with mine

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jt88

@Zoins that's a very nice error Morgen coin. Nice color. thanks for posting it.

Tramp

I took two full college semester of Western Civilization and already knew much of the history of Liberia up to the mid 1980's. Not surprising how many Americans have no idea or knowledge of it's connection to the US.

Cool pieces of coinage shared!

Zoins

@coinsarefun said:
@Zoins That is spectacular!!!!!

I only have the regular version but toned in an old PCI holder so I sent it in to be graded and true viewed.
Yours would go very nicely with mine

Thanks Stef! Yours looks great too! I love the colors and I agree they go great together!