Toning silver
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PLEASE SERIOUS ANSWERS ONLY.
What kind of envelope or environment should I put my silver coins in? Do the generic #10 envelopes work? Should I leave them by the window? Should I add sulfur to the envelope?
Thanks in advance
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Oops - Never mind. I first thought you wanted to avoid toning, not create it.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
I think the hesitation at providing this information is the disdain collectors have for intentional attempts at creating attractively toning on coins. Some of that disdain is expressed when grading companies classify a coin as artificially toned or label it as questionable toning which drops the value tremendously.
That said anything with a sulfur content will accelerate the toning process as will heat but you're more like to create toning that to an educated eye will be identified as artificial or questionable versus toning that is attractive and occurred "naturally" over a long period of time (coin in an old album that had a high sulfur content). The folks that are expert at it are not going to share their process on a public forum.
Btw, I'm no expert but have some feel for how collectors in general view this issue.
I don't know if it's a joke or not but I've read that wrapping a coin in a napkin from Taco Bell will tone a coin but it will still take a long time. Any quick method of toning using heat or chemicals will result in a coin with artificial toning and that coin will be unacceptable to experienced collectors and the grading services.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Many collectors pay high premiums for colorful tarnish on coins. Naturally occurring tarnish is desirable, artificial - or assisted - tarnish is rejected by TPG's and collectors. What you are seeking would be termed artificial and not command a premium. Cheers, RickO
I've had some success leaving cleaned (but not abrasively cleaned) circulated coins on my bedside table. It's not quick, it takes months, sometimes a year-year and a half. They don't end up looking fully original but have better eye appeal than they started with. They usually start yellow, progress to brown, and then to gray.
A Tupperware container and
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You may have some success in toning a coin by leaving it at the rim of an active volcano, or at the rim of one of the heated pools of water in Yellowstone National Park.
If you leave the coins in these places with the "intent" to cause them to tone, then any toning that results is Artificial. If you leave the coins in these places merely out of curiosity to see what would happen to them (without any "intent" to cause them to tone) then any toning that results is Natural.
What is your purpose of trying to tone the coins? If to try and make a profit I wouldn't suggest even trying. You will be disappointed and its deceitful to add chemicals to accelerate toning. If to improve the look of some lightly cleaned coins that you are keeping, an old album or envelope may help but be prepared to wait years. Just MHO.
Absolutely!!!!!!!
My opinion as well. INTENT. How do they decide? Eh? 🤠
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One time some guy intentionally exposed a coin to a sulfur/heat source, but it didn’t tone. Is it still AT because he had the intent to artificially tone it even though it’s not toned at all? 🤔
Mr_Spud
The above post is a fictional philosophical thought provoking question. Similar to if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, did it make a sound
Mr_Spud
As to the tree.
I once heard a wonderful response.” No thetree doesn’t make a sound “ but it does make the ground quake!” And then mom would say “ just like you may not hear me I will make the ground shake, as i thump your bottom to time out ”😂😂😂. Good ole mom. She had a way with words 🤔
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Actually just the yolks, Eh?
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Just the yolks. 😁
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Yup. That the part of the egg that's high in sulfur.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
...and if you throw your non-cam proof nickels in the lava as an offering to the gods, the next ones you'll find at coin shops will be dcam
The whites have more.
I am just a simple dang guy and stuffed the whole thing in the Tupperware and the coins came out bluish and dull colored. 😁😁😁
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really? that's the most interesting thing I've heard this week, but I don't get out much
I did an egg experiment last week, for our local eggs the white part must be included to see tone. I did three days with yolk only and got almost no where. 7 hours with a single whole hard boiled egg sliced down the middle made some wild colors.
One thing I learned is that if the coin already has some toning started it will accelerate nicely when exposed to the egg.
The red reverse was already naturally started with a small red crescent on the top. It traveled quickly!
The obverse is quite obviously artificial.
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/