@braddick posted a cool looking Ike which reminded me of this monster (or is it monstrosity) that just crossed the auction block recently.
What do you all think of the look?
What do you think of the $2,081 price it brought at GC this past Sunday?
Toned Ike collector here. Not a fan of this coin at all and it looks AT to me. The color pattern looks similar to what I’ve seen on a lot of brown box proof Ikes but I’ve never seen an MS one like this.
@david3142 said:
Toned Ike collector here. Not a fan of this coin at all and it looks AT to me. The color pattern looks similar to what I’ve seen on a lot of brown box proof Ikes but I’ve never seen an MS one like this.
I lean AT as well. I still like it for what it is, I just would not want to personally pay an NT price (and thus I did not even bid).
@Cladiator said:
You think it was AT'd before slabbing or AT'd in the slab?
My guess is that it straight graded from a raw coin.
But there is a chance someone could have gassed an older slab and then sent it in for reholdering.
I'm not a fan of toning as dark as the toning on the obverse. Even with the bright lighting there is no color on the portrait. I like the reverse but the obverse kills it for me.
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To me, that coin is the epitome of ugliness.... Where is the vomit emoji when needed. I know, some collectors like this... Fine, collect and enjoy what pleases you. Someone likely paid a premium for it. Cheers, RickO
Since no one was guessing the price, I added it in the original post and title. It sold for an incredible $2,081!
Did anyone think it would bring that much?
I'm a simple man. I just have one question: How in God's name can the TPG'ers tell if it's AT or NT or detailed/damaged? Or is it just about the bottom-line and everyone wins??
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
There are apparently a lot of collectors out there with more money than sense. If I were someone who owned coins like this I would get them to auction as quickly as possible, take the money and ..... RUN!
@ricko said:
To me, that coin is the epitome of ugliness.... Where is the vomit emoji when needed. I know, some collectors like this... Fine, collect and enjoy what pleases you. Someone likely paid a premium for it. Cheers, RickO
I love good toners but I was waiting for the confirmation from you, as I had no idea how to express my thoughts on this particular gem.
@OAKSTAR said:
I'm a simple man. I just one question: How in God's name can the TPG'ers tell if it's AT or NT or detailed/damaged? Or is it just about the bottom-line and everyone wins??
The grading services don't care if it's AT or NT. They only care it it's MA (Market Acceptable).
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@OAKSTAR said:
I'm a simple man. I just one question: How in God's name can the TPG'ers tell if it's AT or NT or detailed/damaged? Or is it just about the bottom-line and everyone wins??
The grading services don't care if it's AT or NT. They only care it it's MA (Market Acceptable).
Just for the record… I have nothing against AT coins…. just as long as they are straight graded and attractive. I would also pay extra for them (only under those circumstances) but just not moon money. I am worried about the long-term stability of ANY toned coin, which makes paying huge sums for them, based solely on that qualifier, a very dicey proposition..
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@OAKSTAR said:
I'm a simple man. I just one question: How in God's name can the TPG'ers tell if it's AT or NT or detailed/damaged? Or is it just about the bottom-line and everyone wins??
The grading services don't care if it's AT or NT. They only care it it's MA (Market Acceptable).
Exactly, which means the bottom-line... Right?
So if it was not MA, would they detail it?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Ikes do tone a little differently, but this one looks like it had help. Whether or not it got this way naturally or not, it's not a look that appeals to me.
I will NEVER be DONE at being AMAZED at what some people will pay for TONERS.......
@ricko said:
To me, that coin is the epitome of ugliness.... Where is the vomit emoji when needed. I know, some collectors like this... Fine, collect and enjoy what pleases you. Someone likely paid a premium for it. Cheers, RickO
"LIKELY PAID A PREMIUM?"
RickO a member of the "BLAST WHITE" club until the VERY END......
If only he could get it in a CACG holder or CAC sticker (far fetched I know)… Can you imagine the threads or the bidders gleefully willing to throw fistfuls of money at it?
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Toned Ike collector here. Not a fan of this coin at all and it looks AT to me. The color pattern looks similar to what I’ve seen on a lot of brown box proof Ikes but I’ve never seen an MS one like this.
I lean AT as well. I still like it for what it is, I just would not want to personally pay an NT price (and thus I did not even bid).
You think it was AT'd before slabbing or AT'd in the slab?
My guess is that it straight graded from a raw coin.
But there is a chance someone could have gassed an older slab and then sent it in for reholdering.
I don’t see what you people see in this coin toning is pretty dark and weird
Not a huge fan.
I am drawn toward it as I do enjoy unusual and in my mind’s eye, cool looking Ikes.
peacockcoins
I figured you would like it.
I'm not sure if many of us would like to pay the final price though (which no one has attempted to guess yet).
I would be afraid to guess price as either way I’d probably be wildly off the mark!
peacockcoins
I'm not a fan of toning as dark as the toning on the obverse. Even with the bright lighting there is no color on the portrait. I like the reverse but the obverse kills it for me.
To me, that coin is the epitome of ugliness.... Where is the vomit emoji when needed. I know, some collectors like this... Fine, collect and enjoy what pleases you. Someone likely paid a premium for it. Cheers, RickO
I doubt it would pass Trey's program that hes working on.
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Since no one was guessing the price, I added it in the original post and title. It sold for an incredible $2,081!
Did anyone think it would bring that much?
Ugly AT Coin, at a remarkably foolish price.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
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I'm a simple man. I just have one question: How in God's name can the TPG'ers tell if it's AT or NT or detailed/damaged? Or is it just about the bottom-line and everyone wins??
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
There are apparently a lot of collectors out there with more money than sense. If I were someone who owned coins like this I would get them to auction as quickly as possible, take the money and ..... RUN!
Would some collectors opinion vary if it was CAC'ed?
peacockcoins
It seems too dark, has too much purple, is too symmetrically concentric and has obv/rev sides which are opposite in color progression.
Pass.
Pass.
I love good toners but I was waiting for the confirmation from you, as I had no idea how to express my thoughts on this particular gem.
I'd be afraid it would tone darker, regardless of the holder.
The grading services don't care if it's AT or NT. They only care it it's MA (Market Acceptable).
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Just for the record… I have nothing against AT coins…. just as long as they are straight graded and attractive. I would also pay extra for them (only under those circumstances) but just not moon money. I am worried about the long-term stability of ANY toned coin, which makes paying huge sums for them, based solely on that qualifier, a very dicey proposition..
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Ugly, I would not even think of bidding on that.
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Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
AT in my opinion, and not attractive.
Maybe this one was 'worked' after encapsulation?
Dave
Exactly, which means the bottom-line... Right?
So if it was not MA, would they detail it?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Ikes do tone a little differently, but this one looks like it had help. Whether or not it got this way naturally or not, it's not a look that appeals to me.
Cladking here, love to see such a controversial coin cause such a stir, check out the more lively pics on IG under my pseudonym - Cladking.
I have a couple of Ikes with similar toning still in their original mint packaging. I'll have to take some photos and post them.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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@ricko Don't look!! Oh to late... Well I love toning but...... this coin is ugly in my opinion at least from the pictures..
I will NEVER be DONE at being AMAZED at what some people will pay for TONERS.......
"LIKELY PAID A PREMIUM?"
RickO a member of the "BLAST WHITE" club until the VERY END......
I will NEVER be done being AMAZED at what some people will pay for toners.......
My thoughts too.
40% silver Ikes, or all CuNi?
I’m not a fan.
Congratulations to the consignor!
This coin is clad Cu/Ni with no silver, correct?
No silver in this one
If only he could get it in a CACG holder or CAC sticker (far fetched I know)… Can you imagine the threads or the bidders gleefully willing to throw fistfuls of money at it?
Pass.