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I consider this 2-point downgrade to actually be a slight upgrade…

lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

My Morgan dollar type coin.

Before: 1881-S, PCGS MS65. Common as a grain of sand on the beach, but Gem quality- nice bright white and lustrous.

After: 1880-S, PCGS MS63 DMPL. Still a very common date, but Deep Mirror Prooflike and housed in a cool early PCGS slab that’s probably 30+ years old. Anybody know which generation it is?


What do you think? Was the 65 to 63 drop worth it to get the DMPL? I think so.


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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS priceguide on the first coin is $265, and the new addition trends $300.


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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the new addition is Gen. 2.1 from October to December of 1989?

    Meaning it just missed being in a now-coveted Gen. 2.0 “Doily” by a month or so.


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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,371 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I assume you checked the PCGS Coin Facts "Museum of Coin Holders".

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    I assume you checked the PCGS Coin Facts "Museum of Coin Holders".

    Yes.


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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,371 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on your pics, your 1880-S MS63 DMPL actually looks undergraded. The OGH is a nice bonus. B)

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Judging from the pictures, it look like you did well... I am not a label collector, so my preference is always the coin itself. Cheers, RickO

  • DropdaflagDropdaflag Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice Upgrade. Put down the drill!!!

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My 79-O is from the same submission:

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That was a cool lot!

    This too:

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,344 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2023 1:48PM

    There were 80 or 90 from the original submission…

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sent in August of 1989

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now if we could only find who submitted them and get other stories from where the coins came from....You used to be able to retrieve coins from NGC invoice submissions but then they started requiring you know the grades.

  • BoloBolo Posts: 125 ✭✭✭✭

    Its certainly a lot more interesting of a specimen than the most generic of generic Morgans, even at a lower grade. Nice switch!

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said: Sent in August of 1989

    Interesting!! Submission received while PCGS was still using the "Rattler" holder, in process when they were issuing the "Doily" holder and encapsulated in what PCGS now refers to as a "2.1" holder. To my thinking and according to the original analysis of PCGS holder Generations by Conder101 the OP's capsule fits between the Doily and the 2.1 since it is absent the initials "PCGS" at the top of the front insert.

  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    That was a cool lot!

    >
    That 86 is a nice coin.

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  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure that would DMPL these days but easily a more attractive package. The OGH DMPL standards were strengthened later on to really account for measurable field depth which that one appears to lack somewhat. That said mirrors are hard to gauge by photos and I could be wrong

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is CPG for them?

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crypto said:
    Not sure that would DMPL these days but easily a more attractive package. The OGH DMPL standards were strengthened later on to really account for measurable field depth which that one appears to lack somewhat. That said mirrors are hard to gauge by photos and I could be wrong

    No, I think you’re right. The contrast is there but not as strong as I’ve seen on some.


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