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GTG 1883 Liberty Nickel *Grades revealed*

BoloBolo Posts: 125 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 11, 2023 6:34AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Just got my latest batch back from PCGS and there were a few surprises. This was one of them.

Take a guess what it came in as. Also...those poor dies!

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Going with 58 on both.

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting coins. The die cracks all over that nickel. How about:
    65
    55

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a story behind those 1883 nickels that slip my mind at the moment. Something about them being hoarded at the time, is why there are so many in MS condition.

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64/55

  • maymay Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    There's a story behind those 1883 nickels that slip my mind at the moment. Something about them being hoarded at the time, is why there are so many in MS condition.

    You might be thinking about the “no-cents kind”, as that was hoarded due to crooks gold plating them and passing them off as $5 pieces. Once the public heard, they were hoarded. I’m pretty sure the “cents” variety wasn’t hoarded as much.

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  • maymay Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 and 55.

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65 65+

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ownerofawheatiehorde said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    There's a story behind those 1883 nickels that slip my mind at the moment. Something about them being hoarded at the time, is why there are so many in MS condition.

    You might be thinking about the “no-cents kind”, as that was hoarded due to crooks gold plating them and passing them off as $5 pieces. Once the public heard, they were hoarded. I’m pretty sure the “cents” variety wasn’t hoarded as much.

    Yes, I think you're right. Thanks for that. 👍🏻

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 and 55…..and nice better date coins in their respective series.

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  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2023 6:51PM

    MS 64
    MS 64

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  • BoloBolo Posts: 125 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2023 7:15PM

    Interesting guesses so far! Neither one of these graded the same as what I bought them at, so apparently they are a challenge.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guesses would be 63 and 58.... Cheers, RickO

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say 55 for both

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unc details rim damage
    58
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  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The liberty nickel is MS, id say 62 or 63

    AU on the barber, maybe 55 ?

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62
    55


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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Big variances here and tough to guess. I'll go 62 and 58

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  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    Going with 58 on both.

    My first instinct as well

  • kirkminkkirkmink Posts: 176 ✭✭✭✭

    64/55

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't get it but I would pay up for coin #2 regardless of the grade.

  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63/58

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 on the nickel
    58 on the Barber 25C

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66, 58

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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭

    61
    58

  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Details no grade
    and AU 58

  • BoloBolo Posts: 125 ✭✭✭✭

    I'll post the grades tomorrow. I am fascinated by the large range of grades guessed at and some of the comments - which I thought might happen with these two.

    One of the coins has been guessed correctly. One has not. :smile:

  • YouYou Posts: 278 ✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2023 5:52PM

    62
    50

  • HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is 63, figuring a weak strike based on the flatness of the stars, making it appear as a lower grade,
    I think the NOLA looks like a 58.
    Both are really nice looking coins!

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53
    55

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62
    53

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't like the look of that 1893-O Barber quarter. If I had seen that coin raw and it appeared as I interpret it from the TrueView images then it would be something I would say was likely an AU cleaned with baking soda.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Che_Grapes said:
    Details no grade
    and AU 58

    Would a details no grade have a TV?

    55 on the nickel.

    I'd go 58 on the quarter but I'm going to guess details

  • BoloBolo Posts: 125 ✭✭✭✭

    And these were the comments I was waiting for :smiley:

    The Barber quarter certainly was cleaned in some way a very long time ago. The trueview picture is accurate in how it looks.

  • BoloBolo Posts: 125 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 11, 2023 6:41AM

    And for the grades!

    First up, the 1883 Nickel. I bought this as an AU-50. It looked neat with all the die cracks on both obverse and reverse. Our hosts decided it was:

    I suppose all the die wear and weak strike or whatever is going on in the reverse makes it hard to grade. I'm not sure I'd have called it mint state tho.

    Second, the 1893-O Quarter. I bought this as an EF-45. This was kind of a "reach for the stars" submission as it appears to have a very old cleaning going on but I've seen plenty of coins like it straight graded so I thought I'd take the chance:

    womp womp

    Nice guesses! The fact it took so long to call out its suspicious nature makes me feel less silly about my gamble on getting it graded.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If we compare your image and the TV of the 1893-O it almost looks like two different coins.

  • BoloBolo Posts: 125 ✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:
    If we compare your image and the TV of the 1893-O it almost looks like two different coins.

    I take terrible pictures!

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have the same problem taking pictures but I think with your picture more so than the TV the coin looks like it was cleaned.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bolo was the nickel certified when you bought it as an AU50? If so what tog holder was it in? Just curious.

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  • BoloBolo Posts: 125 ✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Bolo was the nickel certified when you bought it as an AU50? If so what tog holder was it in? Just curious.

    All the coins I'm certifying now are coins I bought raw in the 80s and 90s.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62
    55

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