Ok variety people........check out this 1913 Buff
Manorcourtman
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I've been chasing Buffalo varieties for almost 20 years now and have never seen what I am seeing today. Just got in a gem type 1 1913 Buff and as I always do, I put her under magnification. And I am truly amazed with what I am seeing. I need some other eyes and brains to analyze it now. I will describe it then post my pics. I was first drawn to the obverse designer initial F. There are two distinct and different F's. The second F is southeast of the primary F. This is not MD. It looks Doubled die to me. The 2 F's are very easy to see. Then I noticed the large feather is tripled on the west side. I also noticed what I perceive a DD on parts of the braid. Under the scope the very top of the large feather is quadrupled but I could not get good pictures of it. Here she is. Opinions are appreciated from the experts here!
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My first thought is machine doubling.
The 2 F's have different length crossmembers on the letter and are distinctly different size/style. I don't know. That's why I appreciate any opinions. Thanks for your input.
I think it’s probably machine doubling, but I could be wrong. It’s a pretty cool case at that.
Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard
Machine doubling can look deceptively like die doubling on incuse lettering.
For example, there are loads of the new Bessie Coleman quarters with beautifully doubled designer's initials; at first glance, you'd swear it was die doubling, but it's actually mechanical doubling on incuse lettering.
Here's an example pulled from eBay:
@Manorcourtman ... Great pictures.... I will defer to the expertise of @CaptHenway here... That F issue would certainly get the attention of any collector. Cheers, RickO
To me, some of that doubling looks like it might be in the die and not machine doubling. What is known or documented for 1913s?
This is the first example of this particular coin that I have seen.
I would hesitate to call it a doubled die, and is probably no more than an extreme case of MDD.
My opinion is based on the feather showing a tripling. While it is still possible to have a doubled die coin that also shows MDD, the preponderance of evidence leans toward MDD.
Pretty severe at that.
Pete
Edited to add "the" before preponderance.