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percyb
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How do you tell if a coin has been dipped in some silver cleaner?
I ordered and received a coin that just doesn't quite feel right for an Uncirculated coin, But maybe
it's the humidity today.
Thanks.
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Trust your gut instincts.
If you think it may have been dipped it probably has been.
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Thanks.
It’s been a long long time since I purchased a coined claimed to be BU that was dipped.
Suspicious minds, ya gotta follow it sometimes. What Braddick said...
A coin can be BU and still have been dipped in the past.
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Countless uncirculated coins have been dipped, including many high grade and/or extremely valuable ones.
Sometimes it’s obvious that a coin’s been dipped but other times, not.
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A true uncirculated silver coin that has only very slight toning can usually be dipped once and end up looking like new. With each additional dip it tends to lose a bit of its luster. An AU coin that has been dipped will have lost its luster on the high points where wear was present.
An uncirculated silver coin that had very dark toning will usually lose much of its luster even on the first dip.
Humidity?
The touch of it just isn’t right-smooth dare I say. It’s humid in Chicago today.
Many brilliant blast white silver coins in PCGS and NGC slabs have been dipped.
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"I ordered and received a coin that just doesn't quite feel right for an Uncirculated coin,.." It may very well have a problem, but I doubt dipping is the problem.
Can you post pictures of the coin?
I've practiced dipping common melt value coins. Mostly 90% and 40% Kennedy's. Fast dips, slow dips, watered down e-Zest, etc..
You can get a real feel and understanding of what a dipped coin would or could look like by practicing on junk silver.
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Based on the pictures, the coin doesn’t look dipped or uncirculated, though close to the latter.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Thanks to both of you!
It's a nice looking coin from where I sit.
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Looks nice to me!
I would love to know how any 100+ year silver coin can look blast white today without being tampered with previously by some individual(s)..
It could have been part of a roll of coins put away years ago.
It happens all the time.
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So are you telling me that it couldn't have ever been dipped properly?
No, I'm not saying that. There's no way to prove it's been tampered with. All I know is that it straight graded.
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The coins environment/storage can have significant effect on silver coins... Just because they are 'old and look new without tarnish' does not necessarily mean they have been dipped. Yes, they may have... but also may have been kept in a non-reactive environment. And just dipping a coin, properly, and rinsing well, is not considered a disqualifier....There are many, many straight graded coins in slabs that have likely been dipped. Cheers, RickO
Dealers dip too.
I was in a coin shop where the dealer was dipping coins in plain view of his customers. He was showing everyone before and after coins.
I dunno. I just thought it was strange.
Pete
I look for subtleties in the overall appearance. A polished coin has an obvious look, a dipped coin can lean in that direction versus an original which likely has a degree of frosting however minimal. It isn't always easy to tell. I remember working with a consignment of Peace Dollars that were originally sold as "BU" but were otherwise clearly dipped.
Also, sometimes a dipped coin with have a more greyish-blue faint hue.
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