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percybpercyb Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭
edited June 1, 2023 12:49PM in U.S. Coin Forum

How do you tell if a coin has been dipped in some silver cleaner?

I ordered and received a coin that just doesn't quite feel right for an Uncirculated coin, But maybe
it's the humidity today.

Thanks.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @percyb said:
    How do you tell if a coin has been dipped in some silver cleaner?

    I order and received a coin that just doesn't quite feel right for an Uncirculated coin, But maybe
    it's the humidity today.

    Thanks.

    Trust your gut instincts.
    If you think it may have been dipped it probably has been.

    peacockcoins

  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @percyb said:
    How do you tell if a coin has been dipped in some silver cleaner?

    I order and received a coin that just doesn't quite feel right for an Uncirculated coin, But maybe
    it's the humidity today.

    Thanks.

    Trust your gut instincts.
    If you think it may have been dipped it probably has been

    Thanks.

    It’s been a long long time since I purchased a coined claimed to be BU that was dipped.

    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Suspicious minds, ya gotta follow it sometimes. What Braddick said...

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A coin can be BU and still have been dipped in the past.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A true uncirculated silver coin that has only very slight toning can usually be dipped once and end up looking like new. With each additional dip it tends to lose a bit of its luster. An AU coin that has been dipped will have lost its luster on the high points where wear was present.

    An uncirculated silver coin that had very dark toning will usually lose much of its luster even on the first dip.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Humidity?

  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Humidity?

    The touch of it just isn’t right-smooth dare I say. It’s humid in Chicago today.

    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 44,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Many brilliant blast white silver coins in PCGS and NGC slabs have been dipped.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭

    "I ordered and received a coin that just doesn't quite feel right for an Uncirculated coin,.." It may very well have a problem, but I doubt dipping is the problem.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can you post pictures of the coin?

    I've practiced dipping common melt value coins. Mostly 90% and 40% Kennedy's. Fast dips, slow dips, watered down e-Zest, etc..

    You can get a real feel and understanding of what a dipped coin would or could look like by practicing on junk silver.

  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Can you post pictures of the coin?

    I've practiced dipping common melt value coins. Mostly 90% and 40% Kennedy's. Fast dips, slow dips, watered down e-Zest, etc..

    You can get a real feel and understanding of what a dipped coin would or could look like by practicing on junk silver.


    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @percyb said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Can you post pictures of the coin?

    I've practiced dipping common melt value coins. Mostly 90% and 40% Kennedy's. Fast dips, slow dips, watered down e-Zest, etc..

    You can get a real feel and understanding of what a dipped coin would or could look like by practicing on junk silver.


    Based on the pictures, the coin doesn’t look dipped or uncirculated, though close to the latter.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    with @MFeld

  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    with @MFeld

    Thanks to both of you!

    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a nice looking coin from where I sit.

  • baseballjeffbaseballjeff Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭

    Looks nice to me!

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    with @MFeld

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 328 ✭✭✭

    I would love to know how any 100+ year silver coin can look blast white today without being tampered with previously by some individual(s)..

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:
    I would love to know how any 100+ year silver coin can look blast white today without being tampered with previously by some individual(s)..

    It could have been part of a roll of coins put away years ago.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:
    I would love to know how any 100+ year silver coin can look blast white today without being tampered with previously by some individual(s)..

    It happens all the time.

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 328 ✭✭✭

    So are you telling me that it couldn't have ever been dipped properly?

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, I'm not saying that. There's no way to prove it's been tampered with. All I know is that it straight graded.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coins environment/storage can have significant effect on silver coins... Just because they are 'old and look new without tarnish' does not necessarily mean they have been dipped. Yes, they may have... but also may have been kept in a non-reactive environment. And just dipping a coin, properly, and rinsing well, is not considered a disqualifier....There are many, many straight graded coins in slabs that have likely been dipped. Cheers, RickO

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dealers dip too.

    I was in a coin shop where the dealer was dipping coins in plain view of his customers. He was showing everyone before and after coins.

    I dunno. I just thought it was strange.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I look for subtleties in the overall appearance. A polished coin has an obvious look, a dipped coin can lean in that direction versus an original which likely has a degree of frosting however minimal. It isn't always easy to tell. I remember working with a consignment of Peace Dollars that were originally sold as "BU" but were otherwise clearly dipped.

    Also, sometimes a dipped coin with have a more greyish-blue faint hue.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 44,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A coin dealer I knew quite well allowed me to use his bathroom. It looked like a damned chemistry lab. :D

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

  • conrad99conrad99 Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2023 3:20PM

    @PerryHall said:
    Many brilliant blast white silver coins in PCGS and NGC slabs have been dipped.

    • Many
    • Most
    • All

    Pick your poison!

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