Does a gold CAC sticker hurt the value of a Poor-1 coin?
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I gave it to a PCGS coin dealer who then sent it to PCGS.
Would like to see better pictures, front and back.
the coin was sold years ago & the only pic I saved in my iphone is posted above.
why the question & interest?
If you would have provided this information in your original post, there would have been no need for these questions and interest.
why I don’t see that as a requirement for CU membership. imho a member can choose or not to choose to post any information, period; as long as it does not violate our host’s rules or guidelines.
Both of you have offered quality posts from what I've seen so far.
Besides responding to some bickering, mikee999 has offered interesting and thoughtful threads/posts.
Perhaps I've missed a few posts that would lead me to believe otherwise?
Let's not be too busy pointing a finger in mikee999's direction upon realizing when you do
four fingers point back at you.
It's actually three fingers pointing back at you unless your thumb is double jointed.
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@braddick said:
Not to be a pest, but here are the stats:
mikee999 has averaged 6.6 posts per day since his membership.
OAKSTAR has averaged 7.4 posts per day since his membership.
Let's not be too busy pointing a finger in mikee999's direction upon realizing when you do
four fingers point back at you.
Is it about the number of posts or the quality of the post?.. I guess it really doesn't matter.
Stats are often misleading, the difference between Oakstar & mikee is that Oak contributes to others posts in addition to creating content while 999 is 99% self-serving to his own content. One is a genuine forum member and the other behaves like a fiend.
Stats are often misleading, the difference between Oakstar & mikee is that Oak contributes to others posts in addition to creating content while 999 is 99% self-serving to his own content. One is a genuine forum member and the other behaves like a fiend.
Did you mean friend or fiend? Maybe it was a Freudian slip.
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As a person who jumped this gun this weekend on posts, I have to agree, we as a forum are jumping on anything weird or seemingly wrong. The picture is so out of focus and seemingly silly that we “pounce”.
Truthfully, PO-1 coins are rare too get, and this is probably legit. But out of focus pictures and short commentary are suspect to the group based on what has been occurring over the past weeks. Certain people “rile us up” over the weekend, and Monday/Tuesday posts catch us with suspicious eyes!
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@ricko said:
PO01 slabbed coins are scarce, and there is a sector of collecting that seek these coins. Cheers, RickO
I really like this PO01, acquired it on BST. 🙂
No date is a problem for a true lowball.
That is why Poor-1 is such a difficult grade to get with the grading service that matters for value. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but unless a variety that is obvious, a no date I think is a problem for PC with getting the poor-1 grade. Is that the same for other grading services?
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Coingratulations. It is a tough and rare grade, highly sought after by some.
Are you working on a lowball set?
I know a collector dedicated to building a lowball everything set. He asked to do even trades of his higher graded material for my lower graded material and I gladly agreed. Lowball sets are a lot bigger challenge than many realize. It takes a lot of work to “make” a P01, buying raw and submitting or sending in crossovers. There is a very small to sometimes nonexistent supply of coins that low.
To borrow the word of the day… “Churlish” comments should be ignored regarding lowball coins.
I see it as a unique, fascinating, and contrarian collecting technique. I typically prefer G6-F15 for low grades but a few P1 have a special eye appeal.
@ricko said:
PO01 slabbed coins are scarce, and there is a sector of collecting that seek these coins. Cheers, RickO
Rare for the reason that many people won't waste their time and money to try to get one certified. People can collect whatever grade coins they like and some coins look nice with wear. However paying huge premiums for the lowest graded coins seems silly to me. Decision PO1 or GEM for the same money? I choose GEM.
I have sandpaper in the garage if I want to make some PO1 coins I could sand em down most of the way then carry them in my pocket to wear off the sanding scratches.
Editted to fix an autocorrected word
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I'm thinking (and I might be wrong), submitting a coin for a straight graded PO-1 and getting it, would be like submitting a coin for a straight graded MS-70 and getting it. There's a market for straight graded PO-1's. Having the only PO-1 for a specific type or year, would be like a top pop just going in the opposite direction.
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@OAKSTAR said:
I'm thinking (and I might be wrong), submitting a coin for a straight graded PO-1 and getting it, would be like submitting a coin for a straight graded MS-70 and getting it. There's a market for straight graded PO-1's. Having the only PO-1 for a specific type or year, would be like a top pop just going in the opposite direction.
Except if your coin makes FR2 then you paid more in slabbing fees than your coin is worth. If you miss on a 70 and get a 69 you probably still have something valuable.
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@OAKSTAR said:
I'm thinking (and I might be wrong), submitting a coin for a straight graded PO-1 and getting it, would be like submitting a coin for a straight graded MS-70 and getting it. There's a market for straight graded PO-1's. Having the only PO-1 for a specific type or year, would be like a top pop just going in the opposite direction.
Except if your coin makes FR2 then you paid more in slabbing fees than your coin is worth. If you miss on a 70 and get a 69 you probably still have something valuable.
Can't argue with that. In this case, I'd rather have the 69 then the FR2.
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@OAKSTAR said:
I'm thinking (and I might be wrong), submitting a coin for a straight graded PO-1 and getting it, would be like submitting a coin for a straight graded MS-70 and getting it. There's a market for straight graded PO-1's. Having the only PO-1 for a specific type or year, would be like a top pop just going in the opposite direction.
Except if your coin makes FR2 then you paid more in slabbing fees than your coin is worth. If you miss on a 70 and get a 69 you probably still have something valuable.
69s can still be valuable, especially if they are made of precious metals, but some 69s are worth less than raw.
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I also found a 12-S along with a bunch of other V nickels![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/yd/wud9qc0tnfxg.png)
Now try to get it CAC stickered!![:D :D](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/lol.png)
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both were sold years ago prior to cac’s existence.
How did you make it?
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I gave it to a PCGS coin dealer who then sent it to PCGS.
Would like to see better pictures, front and back.
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the coin was sold years ago & the only pic I saved in my iphone is posted above.
why the question & interest?
Congrats.
PO1 coins are tough to make with PCGS these days.
peacockcoins
You posted this on a discussion board. What were you expecting?
Does a gold CAC sticker hurt the value of a Poor-1 coin?
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You made a nice one.
Congratulations.
PO01 slabbed coins are scarce, and there is a sector of collecting that seek these coins. Cheers, RickO
I thought you made it in your garage. So PCGS made it into a PO1.
If you would have provided this information in your original post, there would have been no need for these questions and interest.
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why I don’t see that as a requirement for CU membership. imho a member can choose or not to choose to post any information, period; as long as it does not violate our host’s rules or guidelines.
almost everyone here except yourself know what “made” means in this context.
Very thin ice.
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as usual wrong again, been a visitor on this site for years; recently joined & became a member.
Why is everyone in attack mode?
I can tell. Looks like you're catching up for lost time!
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Not to be a pest, but here are the stats:
mikee999 has averaged 6.6 posts per day since his membership.
OAKSTAR has averaged 7.4 posts per day since his membership.
Let's not be too busy pointing a finger in mikee999's direction upon realizing when you do
four fingers point back at you.
peacockcoins
Is it about the number of posts or the quality of the post?.. I guess it really doesn't matter.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Both of you have offered quality posts from what I've seen so far.
Besides responding to some bickering, mikee999 has offered interesting and thoughtful threads/posts.
Perhaps I've missed a few posts that would lead me to believe otherwise?
peacockcoins
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It's actually three fingers pointing back at you unless your thumb is double jointed.![;) ;)](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/wink.png)
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You got a "point" there! 😂 🤣
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Stats are often misleading, the difference between Oakstar & mikee is that Oak contributes to others posts in addition to creating content while 999 is 99% self-serving to his own content. One is a genuine forum member and the other behaves like a fiend.
On the contrary, Google is not your friend.
Did you mean friend or fiend? Maybe it was a Freudian slip.![:o :o](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/open_mouth.png)
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Try getting a Shield nickel to grade as a P1, there are none as far as I know.
So this coin graded P01 is tied for the worst coin for this date? Is it good to have the worst coin? I thought that was bad?![:D :D](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/lol.png)
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I really like this PO01, acquired it on BST. 🙂
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/px/l4dk4j2eoj5n.jpg)
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No date is a problem for a true lowball.
Agreed.
I'd call it a cull instead.
peacockcoins
As a person who jumped this gun this weekend on posts, I have to agree, we as a forum are jumping on anything weird or seemingly wrong. The picture is so out of focus and seemingly silly that we “pounce”.
Truthfully, PO-1 coins are rare too get, and this is probably legit. But out of focus pictures and short commentary are suspect to the group based on what has been occurring over the past weeks. Certain people “rile us up” over the weekend, and Monday/Tuesday posts catch us with suspicious eyes!
That is why Poor-1 is such a difficult grade to get with the grading service that matters for value. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but unless a variety that is obvious, a no date I think is a problem for PC with getting the poor-1 grade. Is that the same for other grading services?
I think this is the most interesting comment on this thread.![:D :D](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/lol.png)
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Coingratulations. It is a tough and rare grade, highly sought after by some.
Are you working on a lowball set?
I know a collector dedicated to building a lowball everything set. He asked to do even trades of his higher graded material for my lower graded material and I gladly agreed. Lowball sets are a lot bigger challenge than many realize. It takes a lot of work to “make” a P01, buying raw and submitting or sending in crossovers. There is a very small to sometimes nonexistent supply of coins that low.
To borrow the word of the day… “Churlish” comments should be ignored regarding lowball coins.
I see it as a unique, fascinating, and contrarian collecting technique. I typically prefer G6-F15 for low grades but a few P1 have a special eye appeal.
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
i have a 1921 peace dollar not much better maybe a 6 or 8
Rare for the reason that many people won't waste their time and money to try to get one certified. People can collect whatever grade coins they like and some coins look nice with wear. However paying huge premiums for the lowest graded coins seems silly to me. Decision PO1 or GEM for the same money? I choose GEM.
I have sandpaper in the garage if I want to make some PO1 coins I could sand em down most of the way then carry them in my pocket to wear off the sanding scratches.
Editted to fix an autocorrected word
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I'm thinking (and I might be wrong), submitting a coin for a straight graded PO-1 and getting it, would be like submitting a coin for a straight graded MS-70 and getting it. There's a market for straight graded PO-1's. Having the only PO-1 for a specific type or year, would be like a top pop just going in the opposite direction.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Try making a straight graded PCGS P01…you might be surprised how challenging it is.
Dave
This PO01 may be more appealing to some than the Peace Dollar ND POOR 1. Personally, I like both of them.![:) :)](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/smile.png)
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Except if your coin makes FR2 then you paid more in slabbing fees than your coin is worth. If you miss on a 70 and get a 69 you probably still have something valuable.
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Can't argue with that. In this case, I'd rather have the 69 then the FR2.
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Apparently it's a true low ball at ANACS. which straight graded this as a no date.
However, it no dates are not straight graded at PCGS.
69s can still be valuable, especially if they are made of precious metals, but some 69s are worth less than raw.