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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 21, 2023 8:42AM

    I can understand the league forbidding players to bet on NFL but they should be able to bet other Sports

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I can understand the league forbidding players to bet on NFL but they should be able to bet other Sports

    The first one mentions from within an NFL facility. Maybe that's it? I don't know.

  • SlipKidSlipKid Posts: 51 ✭✭✭

    The article stated that the two who bet on non-NFL games supposedly did it from an NFL facility. I don't know if that's the reason for the suspension or not.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You would think that these morons would have learned from watching Calvin Ridley get popped for an entire season.

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  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As far as I've heard, within the time since my last comment, they can't gamble on sports or go into a book.

    They can gamble, poker, whatever, not any sport.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:
    As far as I've heard, within the time since my last comment, they can't gamble on sports or go into a book.

    They can gamble, poker, whatever, not any sport.

    Which makes no sense, why can't an NFL player bet on a MLB game in the offseason?

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    As far as I've heard, within the time since my last comment, they can't gamble on sports or go into a book.

    They can gamble, poker, whatever, not any sport.

    Which makes no sense, why can't an NFL player bet on a MLB game in the offseason?

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    Playing devil's advocate, I could argue both sides of this. The reality is that the leagues have embraced gambling and are pushing it non-stop during games and all marketing. So any argument that the leagues make to stop players is disingenuous.

    I dont actually know the rules, or if it's the ane across all of the sports.

    I could see the leagues saying that they dont want the players gambling, so as to not get into compromised positions. Yet, if that was the reasoning, you could say the say thing about all of the players who waste their money and go broke. Aren't they at risk of being propositioned by people of nefarious intent?

    So, like I said, any policy is disingenuous.

    Slightly off topic, but can anyone produce even a single name of an ex-player who was asked to endorse something gambling related and declined. Or a celebrity. I'm curious.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlipKid said:
    The article stated that the two who bet on non-NFL games supposedly did it from an NFL facility. I don't know if that's the reason for the suspension or not.

    Whether its from an NFL facility or not really shouldnt matter unless its illegal legally to bet from those places. All that should matter is what the bet was. I get that the leagues have a lot of pressure from regulators and the sports books to put on this dog and pony show about gambling, but its so disingenuous to be taking billions from them and then suspending players from using their advertisers to bet on other sports

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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlipKid said:
    The article stated that the two who bet on non-NFL games supposedly did it from an NFL facility. I don't know if that's the reason for the suspension or not.

    Yes, that's the reason. The NFL policy allowed gambling by players, just not at NFL facilities.

    https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018%20Policies/2018%20Gambling%20Policy%20-%20FINAL.pdf

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @SlipKid said:
    The article stated that the two who bet on non-NFL games supposedly did it from an NFL facility. I don't know if that's the reason for the suspension or not.

    Yes, that's the reason. The NFL policy allowed gambling by players, just not at NFL facilities.

    https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018%20Policies/2018%20Gambling%20Policy%20-%20FINAL.pdf

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    Interesting. There seemed to be a lot of confusion about this.

    In the not surprising news of the day....Stephen Jnes, Cowboys Executive VP and son of Jerry, was asked about this in an interview yesterday and stated that they are not able to gamble on any sports.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @Tabe said:

    @SlipKid said:
    The article stated that the two who bet on non-NFL games supposedly did it from an NFL facility. I don't know if that's the reason for the suspension or not.

    Yes, that's the reason. The NFL policy allowed gambling by players, just not at NFL facilities.

    https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018%20Policies/2018%20Gambling%20Policy%20-%20FINAL.pdf

    ....
    Interesting. There seemed to be a lot of confusion about this.

    In the not surprising news of the day....Stephen Jnes, Cowboys Executive VP and son of Jerry, was asked about this in an interview yesterday and stated that they are not able to gamble on any sports.

    Players are allowed to bet on anything besides the NFL as long as its not in an NFL facility, but NFL personal cant bet on sports. I'm not really sure how horse racing seems to be exempt since many owners and officials own or partially own horses but the rule overall doesnt make much sense anyways. It would make sense though why a VP of a team wouldnt be aware of the player exception and just know what applies to his side of the business

    The facility part is really just dumb, had Williams walked 30 feet across the street he doesnt get suspended but because he didnt he's going to miss 6 games.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I can understand the league forbidding players to bet on NFL but they should be able to bet other Sports

    This gets into the arguments about "slippery slopes" and the wisdom of having professional players associate with gamblers, including those who have chosen it as a profession. It also made me question the wisdom of moving an NFL franchise to Los Vegas.

    The trouble is hob knobbing with gamblers is risky for professional athletes. Since some players are already celebrates at least to the local fans, buttering them up would not be unusual. With enough buttering, bad things can result.

    After the events of 1919, I guess even going to at racetrack was risky for baseball players.

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