Looking for new friends passionate about bust quarters
Bustquarterhound
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Back in 1984 I first got interested in large size bust quarters. In 1986 we went to New York for the coinage of America conference and had the pleasure of meeting some who shared my passion. After a couple of years we became good friends with many of them namely Jules Reiver, Russ Logan John McClosky, Swampy, David Davis, and to a lesser extent Alan Lovejoy. (A dime guy) and others. It was a lot of fun sharing finds and discussing theories about how something happened to the dies to create what happened to the coins. Life happened and I was out of the hobby for 25 plus years and now that I'm back into it all my old friends have now passed. To me the collecting is okay but, sharing and learning is much more enjoyable. If anyone has the passion and would like to share finds and ideas please let me know my email address is daverungren2@gmail.com
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As you can tell by my avatar, my main area of interest is V nickels, but I'm trying to expand my knowledge a bit by putting together a decent type set, including gold coins. Bust coinage has always been very attractive to me. All early coinage in fact, from half cents to dollars. I have been collecting off and on since I was a kid, but I became a more serious collector around 15 years ago. If you have any photos of coins you presently own, I would love to see them!
Take care,
Dwayne
Dwayne F. Sessom
Ebay ID: V-Nickel-Coins
This was my first classic coin pursuit, about 5 years ago. As a completist by nature, I spent a lot of time looking through the Red Book for the right series to chase -- not too easy, not impossible, perhaps overlooked. I settled on the Bust Quarter Dansco, which I completed (didn't crack the PCGS VG10 1804 though, nor the PCGS VG8 1796 which isn't part of the album) and within a year of completion sold them all. I love how the coins are a different size than modern quarters. My collection was around VG for draped bust, F for large-size capped bust, and VF for small-size capped bust. 1823/2 was my dream coin for awhile. All in all, a great series!
In the late 80's I received the Bowers and Merena rare coin review that featured an au 1823 quarter for $99,000 twice the price of my house. But I Just bought an au 1824 and was comparing it to the 1823 and noticed the reverses were the same except for the broken arrowshaft and arrowhead. That find was where Jules Reiver and I became good friends.
Hello,
Bust Quarters are wonderful coins. This is my only one.
"You can't get just one gun." "You can't get just one tattoo." "You can't get just one 1796 Draped Bust Large Cent."
Your coin is an 1806 B-9
Yup. Even though it's a common variety it's a neat and immediately recognizable one. I do believe there are earlier die states though.
"You can't get just one gun." "You can't get just one tattoo." "You can't get just one 1796 Draped Bust Large Cent."
You are correct
Here are the ones from my type set. I tried to take pictures of the 1805 but the slab has a...texture to it that makes all the pictures look terrible, but I attached them anyway!
The 1805 is a B-2 The 1818 is a B-8. Both are earlier die states and both seem like no problem pieces.
Here's three I like
@Bustquarterhound
You seem to know your stuff. No rust at all even after 25 years.
Welcome.
Here's 3 I like for some reason the pics didn't load in order. The 1806 B-6 is a condition census piece the 1815 has a double counterstamped E and the lower grade 1806 is a flip-over double struck B-3
I'm noticing that direct emails are not going through from my email
Welcome Dave!
Glad you found us!!
I sent you a Direct Message here, did you get it? That's probably the easiest way to communicate on the Boards, and you may not want to share your email (or too much other personal info') in a thread, as that might be a little TOO public.
Sharing that kind of info' on DM's (Direct Messages, not Die Marriages
) is quite common once people know each other.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Thanks Todd I'll try that
I generally like cracks, chips, clashes and crust ... generally the hotter the mess, the better!
This one is lacking a some of those things, but it used to belong to one of the gentlemen you mentioned in your first post
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Nice piece. Russ or Swampy?
Swampy
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
I've got a great story about Swampy. One day in Chicago I met him in the lobby of the Hyatt and was showing him the James Stack 1819 B-4 quarter. While he was looking at it he dropped it and it was roiling toward the elevator. He dropped down to his knees and started crawling after it. Luckily no damage occurred. I knew right then and there Swampy even being super wealthy was a good person. (Another good story) Where I was in New York back in 1986 I walked into the Stacks store and saw the 1819 B-4 in there showcase. They wanted 1800 for it ( which I didn't have) I told Jules about it and he called them. They said I could have it for 1200 and could make payments on it if needed. I said no I can afford 1200
Do you like the new bust quarter books?
All the large diameter quarters that I currently have.
Tonedeaf is a nickname given to me in reference to my guitar playing ability.
I like both of them. I'm glad Jules Reiver and I didn't get to finish the book we were working on because pre-internet the information and photos were not nearly as good as they are now
Your 1820 is the B-2 you can tell by the die line from the leaf to the rim on the reverse and the large O on the obverse. The 1806 is something I've been working on. It's a later die state B-3 with strong stars on the reverse and even though I can't see clearly in the photo I'd bet there are a couple of incuse marks above the L and I in Liberty.
The 1806 is also missing the part of the serifs on the I and T in LIBERTY.
Tonedeaf is a nickname given to me in reference to my guitar playing ability.
Thats a diagnostic of the B-2 and B3 obverse I believe the B-1 overdate is missing the same serifs but, obviously it's a different die
I need to buy a book on these.
Tonedeaf is a nickname given to me in reference to my guitar playing ability.
I've enjoyed collecting large sized early quarters by die variety and die state, preferring wholesome and well circulated examples.
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It's been a long while since a coin was added; the remaining want list starts in the low 4 figures and goes up from there, and are difficult to locate..
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Nice set most of the pieces you need are what I called money coins. Coins that aren't to rare but, bring big bucks. To me there is nothing wrong with a good, vg,or fine coin without damage. I do prefer to be able to see all the lettering and the letters in the scroll. I haven't looked in the reference books but, I'm curious about what is the difference between the 1818 B-5 die state 1 and die state 2. Also I see you need that pesky 1806 B-8.
I forgot to mention at last year's ANA a guy brought to the JRCS meeting a die I've never seen before. It was an 1818 B-3 with a large Crack from the rim between the S and O going down to the eagles neck through the scroll. The eagles neck feathers were very weak as well. Stupid me I didn't get a pic of it.
I have only one, for my slabbed Dansco 7070 Registry Set, and I love it.
I bought it as an MS64 with a CAC, and when I got it in hand, I liked it even more than the auction house photos. So I decided to send it back to PCGS for Reconsideration. Apparently PCGS agreed, since even though they originally graded it as “only” 64, despite the “booger” coming out of Liberty’s nose, lol, they now added on a “+”.
Since the cert number remains the same with Reconsideration, I then sent it back to CAC to have them automatically reapply their sticker for just $3 (restickering is now $5). Since the upgrade was only a plus, and not to the next higher whole grade number, the restickering was automatic, since CAC ignores plus grades (the new CAC Grading WILL recognize plus grades).
For those not familiar with pricing at this MS64 and MS64+ level, that little plus added on has a very significant impact on market value. (PCGS Pop only 2, only 8 finer).
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
I'm still hunting and chasing for one in an NGC fatty. Feel free to point me in a direction if you know of one for sub $3,000
. Lovely quarters posted in this thread though!
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
I have just a few, but I like them very much
Mr_Spud
Great thread and wonderful to meet you. Capped bust quarters are a prime focus of mine. I’ve been working on a date run of capped bust quarters over the last several years. These are some of my favorites:
This one is from your old friend, Mr. Reiver:
Wow you have some great pieces The 1824 has a special place in my heart. It started my friendship Jules and the JRCS group. That coin you have has beautiful album toning mine was darker. It's a tough coin in higher grades. I still need one this time around. They are bringing in some big bucks. The 1819 is a fascinating one I have 2 now that are earlier die states . Thanks for sharing
I kinda' went down the rabbit hole with bust quarters! The goal was an obtainable variety set in circulated grades (G thru VF). The realization that it was not possible for a collector with limited means has put a pause on acquisitions. I've sold a few over the years that I regret...but that's the way collecting works.
I think the hardest thing for me was to understand that quality comes with a price. Members on this forum have offered nice collectable coins, but my "value buyer" hat got in the way. The same with great dealers over the years. Now, quite possibly, the strong market may have dealt my quarter collecting a death knell.
I still have a few and really enjoy the series.
Just rambling...NorthStar
A great series and some great coins posted here!
I had a set of Bust Quarters when I was a collector, and sold a lot of them when I was a dealer. Always liked these coins!
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
So nice to see some love for a great series I've collected for years!
Here are some of my favorites; these first three are @coinlieutenant specials:
My humble BQ album (I don't seem to have a picture of the first page):
As with you limited means complicates things but, with patience and buying unattributed most of the time.you can get most of the varieties. Then when an> @NorthStar said:
Hi RICH, IT WAS NICE TO SEE YOU AT LAST YEAR'S ANA
Nice set thanks for sharing.
A couple of my favorites!
Two from a famous friend.
I like this quarter book the best. 😉
Good to hear from you Dave!
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
Hi Dave, I'm a big fan of bust quarters and it's great to see a thread about them. I had a variety set which has mostly converted to a date set but for each date I try to have a tough variety or otherwise interesting coin. Here are a few:
I believe the 1819 is ex: Meyer
Wow that's got to be one of the nicest B-4's around. It wouldn't surprise me if it was Swampys. Is the 1820 from the Cohen collection?
Hi Brad good to hear from you also
I am no specialist, but I am a fan of these coins! I just have the one coin for type. It is the 1818/5, Browning 3 variety. PS @Baley That is a fantastic assortment! Wow!
They certainly don't come much better than that.
Just wow…