Is this a defective planchette ?

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heavymetal
heavymetal Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭
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Received my Women’s Quarter silver proof set. The Roosevelt has two relatively deep indentations (est: 1.75mm) by the left chin area. There are no abrasions or scrapes anywhere else on the coin. It’s pristine. Although not visible in my pictures, the bottoms of the indentations are faintly textured like the rest of the face. There is no sign of any anomaly on the opposite side. Any ideas what this is? I’m guessing a faulty planchette. HM





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  • Namvet69
    Namvet69 Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The left and larger of the two impressions looks like an impact mark in that there is metal pushed up at the edge, upper right. IMO. I'll stand by for others.

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  • Jzyskowski1
    Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would hazard a guess and say it definitely happened at the mint. And is very noticeable. How it occurred I’ll wait with @Namvet69 for the explanation of those with more experience. Very interesting. Thanks for posting it. 👍🏼

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  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 10, 2023 3:40PM
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    Hard to tell from the photos ...

    Looks like a strike thru error. If not then it is PMD.

  • Greenstang
    Greenstang Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I agree with contact marks, probably from the reeding of another coin.
    When and where it happened would be hard to say but it would have
    been after the coin was struck so it is PMD

  • OAKSTAR
    OAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Damaged coins in mint and proof sets, coming directly from the mint happens. Coins have gotten damaged during the packaging process. I have a few.

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  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 10, 2023 2:24PM
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    Looks like a reed hit to me.

    If it is, it most likely happened before it left the mint..... so, perhaps not really PMD.

  • seanq
    seanq Posts: 8,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Greenstang said:
    I agree with contact marks, probably from the reeding of another coin.
    When and where it happened would be hard to say but it would have
    been after the coin was struck so it is PMD

    My first reaction was also that it took a hit from the edge of another coin. The edges of those indentations do not look like they were on the planchet before the strike.

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  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PMD was my first thought too...

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  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @FredWeinberg said:
    PMD,imo

    PMD means damage after the coin was minted, not necessarily occurring after it left the mint building

    Sounds good to me..... but really, QC should have caught something this egregious.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like PMD, not a struck through.... Too large for reeding contact IMO... Cheers, RickO

  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It looks like a sore thumb 👍 to me either way, jmo

  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Agree on PMD - sure looks like there was metal movement in those areas.

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  • heavymetal
    heavymetal Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭
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    Here are two more pictures.
    Unfortunately, I’m at the limits of my photography skills.

    The confusing thing to me is the teardrop shape of the indentations . They are not the same width throughout which, if caused by a rim hit, I would think they should be. Also, the “marbled texture “ that forms Mrs Roosevelt’s face is plainly evident at the bottom of both indentations.

    Question: If this was caused by a rim hit from reeded edged coins, shouldn’t there be evidence of that edge
    reeding along with the marbling that forms the original surface observed?

    I am perplexed. These resemble vampire marks. Lol .

    Thank you to all who replied to this thread. Your expertise is much appreciated. HM

  • NeophyteNumismatist
    NeophyteNumismatist Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a reed hit to me.

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

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