Is this an example of gassed in the holder?
goldrealmoney79
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The colors scream AT and I wonder how it got past the graders. I heard there was a problem of gassed in holder coins back in the 2000's but I never saw one and seeing this one makes me wonder if this is an example of one?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275779667384?
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While not the most attractive toning, I have had some coins that toned like that naturally.
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Hmmm...a little extreme. I'd have to vote Yes.
Dave
Not sure when the 12 million cert. # holders were hit, before 2000? Anything is possible, don't understand why someone would go to all that trouble for a couple hundred.
It indeed does look questionable to me.
Mr_Spud
The gassed in slab coins that were reported many years ago were all in PCGS rattler slabs that were far less air-tight than later slab designs.
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Artificial toning
I wouldn't buy it, and I love toning.
There were a handful done by edynamic marketing in newer generations of slabs
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1068179/atd-in-the-holder
Yeah, some of these are still floating around. Pcgs did kill some of the certs. Though.
I see some modern commemoratives on ebay now with similar looks in pcgs holders.
I don't know how the graders let these get by. Here's an example of one I consider questionable.
AT and FT
If it was gassed in the slab wouldn't the whole coin be toned instead of just strategic areas?
I know, I know - these are all supposed to be NT but...................It's the entire coin.
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Not necessarily. It depends on how much gas and whether it leaked locally. The problem with gassing slabs is that it is hard to control.
That said, that slab doesn't have to have been gassed.
Here is a gassed in holder NGC. It turned the insert white.
Here is a gassed in holder PCGS note the damage to the hologram.
Questionable toning or not, it is unquestionably ugly toning, negatively affecting eye appeal and borderline environmental damage.
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The OP example does not appear to be gassed. A lot of the Peace Dollars that were gassed had the three prong PCGS insert as shown above by U1chicago.
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While I would not be interested in any tarnished coins, I would say, the OP coin is Ugly, with a capital U.... I could use other terms, but they are not allowed.
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No, the entire coin wouldn’t necessarily be toned. And that cent bears no resemblance to a gassed holder/coin.
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There is a solution to this. I bet someone could put an indicator strip inside the slab that would turn colors if it is exposed to sulphur or other chemicals. It would be another technological advance that our host could implement and make money off of. A very thin strip of silver foil would work, for example. It would be blast white when put in the holder and it would turn if the coin is gassed or exposed to environmental contamination. Easy peasy.
It's been suggested before, but it's not cost-effective. Adding a slab mug shot to their assembly line for every coin holdered and publishing it with the cert look-up would go a long way toward telling a future buyer whether the integrity of the slab has been breached somehow.
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AT and Gassed