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Anthony Rendon With The Swing And A Miss

erikthredderikthredd Posts: 7,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

Techinically,shouldn't his stat page say he went 0-4 on Opening Day rather than his 0-3?

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wTpEhSPSIDw

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 1, 2023 11:18AM

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    ...
    Watching this video, and how he was holding him...now I'm no punk (but I am relatively financially challenged) so I just might have lost my balance and done some physical damage to myself. 🤣🤣🤣

    Edit to add: I'm just kidding ...🤷😂

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In all seriousness, this video gets me (sports) upset. They let him grab the fan. What if it had been the other way around.

    I know that we had debates here about what a fan can and can not do.

    I know that an athlete cannot do that to a fan. Unless something physical preceded this from the fan towards the athlete, it is uncalled for. And even then, it depends what it is.

    I took a little shame in a thread when @darin called me out for saying that dumping popcorn on poorly performing players is wrong. And when I thought about it, that's not something I'd want to teach my kids to do. So I'm glad that Darin said something. Because I believe in seeing things from both sides.

    But let me play devil's advocate. These guys make their millions under the guise of being entertainers. And there is a long history of performers on a stage getting vegetables, etc thrown at them.

    In today's world, we all have access to social media. We can let our feelings be known. There was a time when this wasn't the case.

    I recently had a pretty fascinating (in my opinion) conversation on the decline of bathroom graffiti, and this came up.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    The fan did the right thing. Now the fan can sue him for instigating a psychical altercation and Rendon has some deep pockets. If the fans smart he'll also try and get some free tickets for life or something from the Angels

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    The fan did the right thing. Now the fan can sue him for instigating a psychical altercation and Rendon has some deep pockets. If the fans smart he'll also try and get some free tickets for life or something from the Angels

    Sue for what? Emotional damages and make a complete fool of himself?

    A shirt grab is aggressive behavior that would warrant a self defense punch, unless your suggesting the fan should have leaned into that swat and claimed he got hurt?

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    The fan did the right thing. Now the fan can sue him for instigating a psychical altercation and Rendon has some deep pockets. If the fans smart he'll also try and get some free tickets for life or something from the Angels

    Sue for what? Emotional damages and make a complete fool of himself?

    A shirt grab is aggressive behavior that would warrant a self defense punch, unless your suggesting the fan should have leaned into that swat and claimed he got hurt?

    ....
    I see it two ways. On the one hand, I hate frivolous suits. On the other hand, sometimes a well placed lawsuit will help things. These players shouldn't even think about doing that again.

    I don't see how that could be emotional distress, but I'd like to see the player be held accountable.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    The fan did the right thing. Now the fan can sue him for instigating a psychical altercation and Rendon has some deep pockets. If the fans smart he'll also try and get some free tickets for life or something from the Angels

    Sue for what? Emotional damages and make a complete fool of himself?

    A shirt grab is aggressive behavior that would warrant a self defense punch, unless your suggesting the fan should have leaned into that swat and claimed he got hurt?

    ....
    I see it two ways. On the one hand, I hate frivolous suits. On the other hand, sometimes a well placed lawsuit will help things. These players shouldn't even think about doing that again.

    I don't see how that could be emotional distress, but I'd like to see the player be held accountable.

    Sure I think Rendon should be held accountable and given an appropriate punishment, maybe a couple game suspension without pay or something.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    The fan did the right thing. Now the fan can sue him for instigating a psychical altercation and Rendon has some deep pockets. If the fans smart he'll also try and get some free tickets for life or something from the Angels

    Sue for what? Emotional damages and make a complete fool of himself?

    A shirt grab is aggressive behavior that would warrant a self defense punch, unless your suggesting the fan should have leaned into that swat and claimed he got hurt?

    Sue for assault. Having hands placed on him his best move was nothing unless Rendon threw the punch first. Rendon stood in the tunnel turned around and called the guy over. Everyone else just walked by. If two guy want to go into the parking lot of the bar and throw hands by all means, Rendon had a tempter trantrum in the tunnel for some reason and its going to cost him and the Angels. Players cannot under any circumstance initiate physical alterations with a fan and they know that.

    If Rendon cant handle a fan chirping maybe he should hang up the cleats and let the Angels out of his terrible contract. He obviously wont since no one else would sign him for anywhere close to that, but if that fan is smart he will be paying him

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    The fan did the right thing. Now the fan can sue him for instigating a psychical altercation and Rendon has some deep pockets. If the fans smart he'll also try and get some free tickets for life or something from the Angels

    Sue for what? Emotional damages and make a complete fool of himself?

    A shirt grab is aggressive behavior that would warrant a self defense punch, unless your suggesting the fan should have leaned into that swat and claimed he got hurt?

    Sue for assault. Having hands placed on him his best move was nothing unless Rendon threw the punch first. Rendon stood in the tunnel turned around and called the guy over. Everyone else just walked by. If two guy want to go into the parking lot of the bar and throw hands by all means, Rendon had a tempter trantrum in the tunnel for some reason and its going to cost him and the Angels. Players cannot under any circumstance initiate physical alterations with a fan and they know that.

    If Rendon cant handle a fan chirping maybe he should hang up the cleats and let the Angels out of his terrible contract. He obviously wont since no one else would sign him for anywhere close to that, but if that fan is smart he will be paying him

    I see your side of it, stuff happens and the bottom line is nothing crazy happened so a hit to the wallet for Rendon and give the fan a few tickets and we call it a day

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    The fan did the right thing. Now the fan can sue him for instigating a psychical altercation and Rendon has some deep pockets. If the fans smart he'll also try and get some free tickets for life or something from the Angels

    Sue for what? Emotional damages and make a complete fool of himself?

    A shirt grab is aggressive behavior that would warrant a self defense punch, unless your suggesting the fan should have leaned into that swat and claimed he got hurt?

    Sue for assault. Having hands placed on him his best move was nothing unless Rendon threw the punch first. Rendon stood in the tunnel turned around and called the guy over. Everyone else just walked by. If two guy want to go into the parking lot of the bar and throw hands by all means, Rendon had a tempter trantrum in the tunnel for some reason and its going to cost him and the Angels. Players cannot under any circumstance initiate physical alterations with a fan and they know that.

    If Rendon cant handle a fan chirping maybe he should hang up the cleats and let the Angels out of his terrible contract. He obviously wont since no one else would sign him for anywhere close to that, but if that fan is smart he will be paying him

    I see your side of it, stuff happens and the bottom line is nothing crazy happened so a hit to the wallet for Rendon and give the fan a few tickets and we call it a day

    Works for me. I'm not saying to cancel Rendon or anything, he did something stupid hes going to have to pay for it and should.

    The one pet peeve I do kind of have is players reacting like that. Ive been there, others have as well, players get chirped by fans in every game, deciding to initiate that was just so stupid. Walk a few more steps and its done. Its not even like it was an important game where he would be fired up.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    The fan did the right thing. Now the fan can sue him for instigating a psychical altercation and Rendon has some deep pockets. If the fans smart he'll also try and get some free tickets for life or something from the Angels

    Sue for what? Emotional damages and make a complete fool of himself?

    A shirt grab is aggressive behavior that would warrant a self defense punch, unless your suggesting the fan should have leaned into that swat and claimed he got hurt?

    Sue for assault. Having hands placed on him his best move was nothing unless Rendon threw the punch first. Rendon stood in the tunnel turned around and called the guy over. Everyone else just walked by. If two guy want to go into the parking lot of the bar and throw hands by all means, Rendon had a tempter trantrum in the tunnel for some reason and its going to cost him and the Angels. Players cannot under any circumstance initiate physical alterations with a fan and they know that.

    If Rendon cant handle a fan chirping maybe he should hang up the cleats and let the Angels out of his terrible contract. He obviously wont since no one else would sign him for anywhere close to that, but if that fan is smart he will be paying him

    I see your side of it, stuff happens and the bottom line is nothing crazy happened so a hit to the wallet for Rendon and give the fan a few tickets and we call it a day

    Works for me. I'm not saying to cancel Rendon or anything, he did something stupid hes going to have to pay for it and should.

    The one pet peeve I do kind of have is players reacting like that. Ive been there, others have as well, players get chirped by fans in every game, deciding to initiate that was just so stupid. Walk a few more steps and its done. Its not even like it was an important game where he would be fired up.

    Agreed 100%

    And it's a breath of fresh air to hear "I'm not saying to cancel Rendon out or anything"

    These guys get paid to be professional athletes and getting heckled is part of the ballpark, it's tough but you need to learn how to deal.with it.

    I mean during my 20 years in the Prison I worked at I wouldn't have lasted the first year if I didn't know how to deal with getting heckled lol

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    The fan did the right thing. Now the fan can sue him for instigating a psychical altercation and Rendon has some deep pockets. If the fans smart he'll also try and get some free tickets for life or something from the Angels

    Sue for what? Emotional damages and make a complete fool of himself?

    A shirt grab is aggressive behavior that would warrant a self defense punch, unless your suggesting the fan should have leaned into that swat and claimed he got hurt?

    Sue for assault. Having hands placed on him his best move was nothing unless Rendon threw the punch first. Rendon stood in the tunnel turned around and called the guy over. Everyone else just walked by. If two guy want to go into the parking lot of the bar and throw hands by all means, Rendon had a tempter trantrum in the tunnel for some reason and its going to cost him and the Angels. Players cannot under any circumstance initiate physical alterations with a fan and they know that.

    If Rendon cant handle a fan chirping maybe he should hang up the cleats and let the Angels out of his terrible contract. He obviously wont since no one else would sign him for anywhere close to that, but if that fan is smart he will be paying him

    I see your side of it, stuff happens and the bottom line is nothing crazy happened so a hit to the wallet for Rendon and give the fan a few tickets and we call it a day

    Works for me. I'm not saying to cancel Rendon or anything, he did something stupid hes going to have to pay for it and should.

    The one pet peeve I do kind of have is players reacting like that. Ive been there, others have as well, players get chirped by fans in every game, deciding to initiate that was just so stupid. Walk a few more steps and its done. Its not even like it was an important game where he would be fired up.

    Agreed 100%

    And it's a breath of fresh air to hear "I'm not saying to cancel Rendon out or anything"

    These guys get paid to be professional athletes and getting heckled is part of the ballpark, it's tough but you need to learn how to deal.with it.

    I mean during my 20 years in the Prison I worked at I wouldn't have lasted the first year if I didn't know how to deal with getting heckled lol

    If someone gave me an option of getting almost 38 mil a year and some random person saying some things where do I sign lol. You definitely had a harder spot with all of that working in a prison. I keep going back and forth a bit but I lean a little more towards where I would be concerned if I was the Angels. Was such a small thing for him to react to. Theres been a lot of behind the scenes things addressing it. Will be interesting what happens. They probably should do something to make sure it doesnt happen again.

    You definitely had worse happen than what was said. It just blows my mind a bit that something so small gets such a reaction so early.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 7,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Had I been that fan I would have made sure Rendon heard me say Swing & a Miss after that missed smack attempt then when he came with the next one I would have leaned right into it. 🤕🩼
    Then after getting my lawyer involved 💰💰💰i'd be up at Ja's favorite booty house makin it rain!

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thin skin for a pro athlete. Wow.

    Dave

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I would have punched him in his face as soon as he grabbed my shirt.

    No questions asked

    I agree. The second he grabbed my shirt like that, one of us was going to end up on the ground. It was an aggressive move, which would have elicited an aggressive response from me in kind.

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 7,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    5 game suspension for Rendon. What a way to start your season lol.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    5 game suspension for Rendon. What a way to start your season lol.

    ...
    Feels like too little for what he did. His actions were egregious, and the punishment should be enough to mitigate future occurrences by other athletes. Five games to manhandle a fan? Some players might take that.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 7,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @erikthredd said:
    5 game suspension for Rendon. What a way to start your season lol.

    ...
    Feels like too little for what he did. His actions were egregious, and the punishment should be enough to mitigate future occurrences by other athletes. Five games to manhandle a fan? Some players might take that.

    And for a guy making 38M a year this suspension shouldn't hurt him at all.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @thisistheshow said:

    @erikthredd said:
    5 game suspension for Rendon. What a way to start your season lol.

    ...
    Feels like too little for what he did. His actions were egregious, and the punishment should be enough to mitigate future occurrences by other athletes. Five games to manhandle a fan? Some players might take that.

    And for a guy making 38M a year this suspension shouldn't hurt him at all.

    ...
    You can't hurt these guys with these little suspensions. Honestly, guys risk the PED suspension and laugh all the way to the bank if they are caught after getting a huge, long term deal.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2023 5:21PM

    5 games is an absolute joke. Should have been minimum the allstar break. Theres some other videos where you can hear the audio and it makes Rendon look even worse but theres curse words in it so not sure the policy on postings those. If a fan did that to a player theyd be banned for life. If someone cant handle getting chirped opening day they should quit. Everyone myself included has had fans yelling playing high level sports

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 7,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Watching it from that angle, not to make any excuses for this guy but that fan wasn't even on his radar until after he walked by him then heard what he heard. I'm sure his player rep will use that once he goes to appeal that suspension.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    Watching it from that angle, not to make any excuses for this guy but that fan wasn't even on his radar until after he walked by him then heard what he heard. I'm sure his player rep will use that once he goes to appeal that suspension.

    He already dropped the appeal and its been dropped to 4 games which is even more of a joke. The fan was on his radar for calling him the b word then the fan did nothing and he chose to instigate an altercation. There's video I'm not sure is allowed to be posted of him saying so while he grabbed the fan.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 7,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Watching it from that angle, not to make any excuses for this guy but that fan wasn't even on his radar until after he walked by him then heard what he heard. I'm sure his player rep will use that once he goes to appeal that suspension.

    He already dropped the appeal and its been dropped to 4 games which is even more of a joke. The fan was on his radar for calling him the b word then the fan did nothing and he chose to instigate an altercation. There's video I'm not sure is allowed to be posted of him saying so while he grabbed the fan.

    That Youtube clip I posted in my OP has the full audio, you can post stuff like this but just make sure to give a NSFW warning.

    It is a shame that he only got four but at least the smack attempt never connected. This incident should at least be just another warning for fans and players both to stay away from something like this. We'll see how long until it actually happens again.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2023 9:01PM

    @erikthredd said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @erikthredd said:
    Watching it from that angle, not to make any excuses for this guy but that fan wasn't even on his radar until after he walked by him then heard what he heard. I'm sure his player rep will use that once he goes to appeal that suspension.

    He already dropped the appeal and its been dropped to 4 games which is even more of a joke. The fan was on his radar for calling him the b word then the fan did nothing and he chose to instigate an altercation. There's video I'm not sure is allowed to be posted of him saying so while he grabbed the fan.

    That Youtube clip I posted in my OP has the full audio, you can post stuff like this but just make sure to give a NSFW warning.

    It is a shame that he only got four but at least the smack attempt never connected. This incident should at least be just another warning for fans and players both to stay away from something like this. We'll see how long until it actually happens again.

    Apparently he forgot how to hit things when he joined the Angels lol.

    It is a really bad precedent for MLB to set though. The As fan was yelling at pretty much everyone which is pretty normal and they all just kept walking. Only the struggling guy making 38 mil decided to stop and if thats all it takes day one that seems like a head case that either wont perform well, will do this again or both. This group of owners and MLB has a really bad history of light punishments for things that actually are an issue as long as you cooperate with them to get it reduced

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unreal. can you just imagine if a fan pulled that little stunt on a player walking by? guy should be out till the break. this is a really bad precedent to make

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,219 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 4, 2023 5:08AM

    My take on the "Punch" was it was a typical POP TART baseball players attempt at a punch and failed miserably.

    His suspension is based on what happened not on intent I'm thinking, if he connected with his swing I'm sure his suspension would be much longer?

    Sadly it didn't happen but the best precedent that could have happened was the fan pummeling Rendon and it being deemed self defense, that would make more ballplayers think twice before going after a fan lol

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is very concerning. I mean, if you can’t even hit a fat guy on a tee two feet away, how are you going to hit a 90mph slider this year, Anthony?

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  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    My take on the "Punch" was it was a typical POP TART baseball players attempt at a punch and failed miserably.

    His suspension is based on what happened not on intent I'm thinking, if he connected with his swing I'm sure his suspension would be much longer?

    Sadly it didn't happen but the best precedent that could have happened was the fan pummeling Rendon and it being deemed self defense, that would make more ballplayers think twice before going after a fan lol

    My sentiments as well.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    Unreal. can you just imagine if a fan pulled that little stunt on a player walking by? guy should be out till the break. this is a really bad precedent to make

    Rendon has already been on vacation the last several years...now he gets another one. Should be more creative with the punishments based on the player involved. Rendon should be selling peanuts in the stands for his atonement...earning at least a few dollars of the millions he has basically stolen the last few years.

  • paulb71paulb71 Posts: 260 ✭✭✭✭

    Rendon this is the same guy that was suspended last year also !!! On the injured list for most of the season last year, and when the Mariners were in Anaheim last year a brawl broke out and of course Rendon Injured on the bench gets suspended for his classless actions during the brawl, Rendon this is 1 classy individual.........

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    My take on the "Punch" was it was a typical POP TART baseball players attempt at a punch and failed miserably.

    His suspension is based on what happened not on intent I'm thinking, if he connected with his swing I'm sure his suspension would be much longer?

    Sadly it didn't happen but the best precedent that could have happened was the fan pummeling Rendon and it being deemed self defense, that would make more ballplayers think twice before going after a fan lol

    Rendon getting pummeled would have been very funny and very deserving.

    While the punch/slap wasnt a UFC overhand right, it was still a player taking a swing at a fan. His intent was to hit/slap him otherwise he wouldnt have swung at him. The worst part and the part that I just cannot get over is him stopping in the tunnel then calling the fan over to do it. This wasnt a heated argument that escalated, he made a conscientious choice to do this. The fan wasnt even trash talking him during being grabbed

    If he had connected the punishment likely would have been longer, but who really knows. Youd think MLB would have taken this incident a lot more seriously than they did giving him 5 games and changing it to 4 for dropping the appeal. They've basically set a precedent that if you cooperate with them and dont fight things punishments will be light, Rendon must have some friends in the league office

    It really just blows my mind that MLB treated this like it was just a manager making contact with an umpire in a heated argument on the field

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    my 2 cents...

    assault and battery

    1. A criminal act involving both a threat of violence and actual physical contact with the victim.
    2. The combination of two violentcrimes: assault (the threat of violence) and battery (physical violence). This legal distinction exists only in jurisdictions that distinguish assault as threatened violence rather than actual violence.
    3. An assault in which the assailant makes physical contact

    SUE HIS ASS!!!

  • DarinDarin Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They’re both idiots, let them duke it out.
    The coward of a fan mistakenly thought he had the protection of being in the stands to separate him from any physical confrontation. Hence his hurling insults at the players as they passed by below. I like that Rendon showed him that being in the stands afforded him no such protection. You think if the fan was on the playing field as those players walked by that he calls them bitches? He would be as quiet as a church mouse. Kind of wish the punch landed.
    Of course It takes 2 idiots for something like that to happen so Rendon should have just realized cowards are gonna be cowards and kept walking.
    But dang I wish he would have come through with a solid hit there. 😛

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:
    They’re both idiots, let them duke it out.
    The coward of a fan mistakenly thought he had the protection of being in the stands to separate him from any physical confrontation. Hence his hurling insults at the players as they passed by below. I like that Rendon showed him that being in the stands afforded him no such protection. You think if the fan was on the playing field as those players walked by that he calls them bitches? He would be as quiet as a church mouse. Kind of wish the punch landed.
    Of course It takes 2 idiots for something like that to happen so Rendon should have just realized cowards are gonna be cowards and kept walking.
    But dang I wish he would have come through with a solid hit there. 😛

    Fans chirping you is part of being an athlete especially at the highest level and making 38 million a year. The stands absolutely without question should provide you protection from players attacking you for simply calling them a bad name. Had the fan done to Rendon what Rendon did to him he would be in jail with a lifetime ban from all MLB stadiums facing criminal charges

  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @Darin said:
    They’re both idiots, let them duke it out.
    The coward of a fan mistakenly thought he had the protection of being in the stands to separate him from any physical confrontation. Hence his hurling insults at the players as they passed by below. I like that Rendon showed him that being in the stands afforded him no such protection. You think if the fan was on the playing field as those players walked by that he calls them bitches? He would be as quiet as a church mouse. Kind of wish the punch landed.
    Of course It takes 2 idiots for something like that to happen so Rendon should have just realized cowards are gonna be cowards and kept walking.
    But dang I wish he would have come through with a solid hit there. 😛

    Fans chirping you is part of being an athlete especially at the highest level and making 38 million a year. The stands absolutely without question should provide you protection from players attacking you for simply calling them a bad name. Had the fan done to Rendon what Rendon did to him he would be in jail with a lifetime ban from all MLB stadiums facing criminal charges

    Not condoning at all what Rendon did, but what about all the other "decent" fans that were there to enjoy the game when this blowhard is yelling profanities?

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @Alfonz24 said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @Darin said:
    They’re both idiots, let them duke it out.
    The coward of a fan mistakenly thought he had the protection of being in the stands to separate him from any physical confrontation. Hence his hurling insults at the players as they passed by below. I like that Rendon showed him that being in the stands afforded him no such protection. You think if the fan was on the playing field as those players walked by that he calls them bitches? He would be as quiet as a church mouse. Kind of wish the punch landed.
    Of course It takes 2 idiots for something like that to happen so Rendon should have just realized cowards are gonna be cowards and kept walking.
    But dang I wish he would have come through with a solid hit there. 😛

    Fans chirping you is part of being an athlete especially at the highest level and making 38 million a year. The stands absolutely without question should provide you protection from players attacking you for simply calling them a bad name. Had the fan done to Rendon what Rendon did to him he would be in jail with a lifetime ban from all MLB stadiums facing criminal charges

    Not condoning at all what Rendon did, but what about all the other "decent" fans that were there to enjoy the game when this blowhard is yelling profanities?

    We dont actually know if he yelled a profanity or not. We have audio of Rendon saying he did, but theres no audio showing him do it, theres just video of him yelling something after the game was over as they were leaving. Theres going to be profanities anytime you attend a sporting event

    It couldnt have been that bad whatever he was yelling, no one else on the team reacted to it and just walked right on by until Rendon did his thing

  • DarinDarin Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @Darin said:
    They’re both idiots, let them duke it out.
    The coward of a fan mistakenly thought he had the protection of being in the stands to separate him from any physical confrontation. Hence his hurling insults at the players as they passed by below. I like that Rendon showed him that being in the stands afforded him no such protection. You think if the fan was on the playing field as those players walked by that he calls them bitches? He would be as quiet as a church mouse. Kind of wish the punch landed.
    Of course It takes 2 idiots for something like that to happen so Rendon should have just realized cowards are gonna be cowards and kept walking.
    But dang I wish he would have come through with a solid hit there. 😛

    Fans chirping you is part of being an athlete especially at the highest level and making 38 million a year. The stands absolutely without question should provide you protection from players attacking you for simply calling them a bad name. Had the fan done to Rendon what Rendon did to him he would be in jail with a lifetime ban from all MLB stadiums facing criminal charges

    No, no, no.
    Call Rendon a bitch at a restaurant, in a store, on the street etc. and it’s clobberin’ time. Ballpark shouldn’t be any different. Again, if that dude were standing on the playing field when Rendon walked by it would have been all quiet on the western front. He would have been too scared to call anyone names.
    It’s the fans that have to learn to behave at ballgames.

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:

    @Basebal21 said:

    @Darin said:
    They’re both idiots, let them duke it out.
    The coward of a fan mistakenly thought he had the protection of being in the stands to separate him from any physical confrontation. Hence his hurling insults at the players as they passed by below. I like that Rendon showed him that being in the stands afforded him no such protection. You think if the fan was on the playing field as those players walked by that he calls them bitches? He would be as quiet as a church mouse. Kind of wish the punch landed.
    Of course It takes 2 idiots for something like that to happen so Rendon should have just realized cowards are gonna be cowards and kept walking.
    But dang I wish he would have come through with a solid hit there. 😛

    Fans chirping you is part of being an athlete especially at the highest level and making 38 million a year. The stands absolutely without question should provide you protection from players attacking you for simply calling them a bad name. Had the fan done to Rendon what Rendon did to him he would be in jail with a lifetime ban from all MLB stadiums facing criminal charges

    No, no, no.
    Call Rendon a bitch at a restaurant, in a store, on the street etc. and it’s clobberin’ time. Ballpark shouldn’t be any different. Again, if that dude were standing on the playing field when Rendon walked by it would have been all quiet on the western front. He would have been too scared to call anyone names.
    It’s the fans that have to learn to behave at ballgames.

    If someone punches you for calling you a bad name in public that person is in jail facing possible felony assault charges and civil lawsuits.

    If that guy was another player on the field Rendon wouldnt have done anything. This whole notion of I get to assault someone if they say something I dont like, thats not a real thing unless you like being in prison.

    Fans overall behave just fine other than fights in the stands. Possibly calling a player a bad name under so circumstances gives them the right to instigate psychical contact with a fan. Your entire argument is essentially saying fans should be able to charge the field and assault players if they dont like what a player said and vice versa

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After seeing Rendon throw a "Punch" I dont believe too many guys would be intimidated by Rendon at this point lol

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    @perkdog said:
    After seeing Rendon throw a "Punch" I dont believe too many guys would be intimidated by Rendon at this point lol

    I normally stay away from the profane. However, if someone calls someone else a b*tch and that someone else responds with a slap, aren’t they sort of confirming the original call?

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    @Alfonz24 said:

    Not condoning at all what Rendon did, but what about all the other "decent" fans that were there to enjoy the game when this blowhard is yelling profanities?

    You make a point, however, isn't that want security is for? I sure wouldn't stand for anybody dropping F-bombs if I were at a game with my wife or kids. Granted, whoever was saying whatever was said, should have been addressed post haste by somebody nearby and nipped it in the bud. I've seen people removed from Fenway, and they deserved to have been. Something about Friday night Red Sox - Yankee games that really bring out the whackos, of course, by about the 5th - 6th inning, the beer is kicking in and that mouths get rolling.

    While walking to the Kenmore Square T, it is NOT advisable to holler "Red Sox Suck", if you are wearing a visiting team's gear, ESPECIALLY if it's Yankee gear. NOT good!!!

    A little off point, but I've played a TON of blackjack, and unfortunately, I've heard some of the rudest and crudest crap said at a blackjack table. What really stuns me is when the dealer is a lady, and some dolt drops an MF-bomb, or F-bomb and thinks it's cool to do so. I have and will continue to call the floor super over and tell him who's using seriously bad profanity, and the issue is stopped. The offending party normally leaves the table and slinks away. People who gamble and can't handle losing, shouldn't ever step into a casino. I could cite numerous examples, but these are those "you had to be there" kinda experiences.

    How can you talk like that in front of a lady you don't know and think it's ok. When it was all said and done, 99% of the time the lady dealer quietly thanked me. As an aside, I really, REALLY hate the smokers who blow that crap towards the table or dealers. My favorites are little groups of guys, probably 30s or 40s, puffing away on little cigars, which they'd never do at home, but think doing so in a casino makes them look so cool. I color up and leave.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,219 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2023 9:56AM

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @perkdog said:
    After seeing Rendon throw a "Punch" I dont believe too many guys would be intimidated by Rendon at this point lol

    I normally stay away from the profane. However, if someone calls someone else a b*tch and that someone else responds with a slap, aren’t they sort of confirming the original call?

    True

    Name calling is childish and attacking someone over it is absolutely idiotic

    I'm in the camp that feels the fan is an idiot and Rendon is the bigger idiot.

    I don't condone disrespect for anyone regardless of the venue, so I'm not on anyone's side in this, my only point is if I was the fan and got grabbed like that I would have smashed Rendon is all.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    After seeing Rendon throw a "Punch" I dont believe too many guys would be intimidated by Rendon at this point lol

    After his last two seasons I doubt anyone was still intimidated by him in anyway

    That actually reminded me what might be the most pathetic thing of this entire situation. Last year Rendon got a 5 game suspension as well for leaving the dugout while on the IR during a benches clearing incident with the Mariners

    Trying to break up a fight in front of your dugout while on the IR is apparently just as bad as attacking a fan. Well dont MLB

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