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New pictures: 1879o Morgan what grade would you give it?

PppPpp Posts: 462 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 31, 2023 9:44AM in U.S. Coin Forum

This is the best uncirculated 1879o Morgan I have right now. In hand I like the strike especially the reverse.
What grade would you give it?


  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    79-O comes well struck. Strike issues didn't really start for O dollars until 1882. That said, I can't get a good read on the surfaces of your coin to say what I'd grade it other than something between AU58 and MS63, assuming there aren't any issues precluding a straight grade.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks possibly processed or wiped at least. I do not know if that will grade by the photos. 61 maybe IMO.

  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t know if it’s the lighting but the surfaces do not look original to me. Clean and smooth, yes, but unnaturally so. I’d grade it AU details.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is the background supposed to be white? It could be the white balance adjustment is off on your camera leaving the surfaces to appear dull...

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with all of the above comments. Better photos would help.

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  • OwnerofawheatiehordeOwnerofawheatiehorde Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Something looks off.. Maybe better photos would help. :)

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Guessing unc details, cleaned. Better pics would help.

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  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Take the photo with coin on a surface where the photo color matches exactly like you see it. If your photo is on a white sheet of paper the color is really off.

  • kirkminkkirkmink Posts: 172 ✭✭✭✭

    Cannot judge the luster of the surface from these pics. Looks almost like a scanner image. If unmolested surfaces, then I would expect a technical grade of MS-65, possibly a 64 if they are being very critical.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin has good strike and details.... however, field and cheek chatter do hurt the grade. Looks like an MS grade... will wait for improved lighting pictures. Cheers, RickO

  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess AU58 because I see very little Mint luster and minor dings on both sides. IF the surfaces are actually flashier than depicted in the photos, it might be MS63 or 64.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Assuming the luster is there although not pictured, I's say MS 63.

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  • PppPpp Posts: 462 ✭✭✭✭

    Thank for you comments and your patience with my pictures.
    I have never been good at taking pictures. I normally use an iPad or iPhone for pictures either camera or magnifier.

    I retook pictures this time on a black background using my iPad. You can see the iPads shadow in the right side if the coin.

  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭✭✭


  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And much much better photo.

  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After new pictures, AU details, cleaned.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Clearly an AU, I also think it would get a details grade but it might slide by.

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  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Much better photo. See how the luster looks cloudy, like a dirty mirror? That is usually a sign that it has been cleaned in the past. It would probably grade AU Details, cleaned. As @coinbuf mentioned above, it might slide by if submitted. It's not a bad looking coin overall.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 otherwise

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 31, 2023 1:03PM

    @johnny010 said:
    62 otherwise

    Cleaned and AU.

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  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU details.

  • TrampTramp Posts: 652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cleaned AU Details. I don't think it will slide with a straight grade.

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, the luster is still missing and the coin now certainly looks cleaned. UNC Details at best.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @johnny010 said:
    62 otherwise

    Cleaned and AU.

    Obviously cleaned. There is no way that will get a straight grade.

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