Need help identifying some coins

Crusty

I have recently acquired some coins that I have no clue about. Any information would be helpful.

Top50SetBuilder

Nothing earth shattering in there. First coin is a contemporary counterfeit of a Portuguese gold coin called a Peca.

Sapyx

1. Brass copy of Portuguese gold coin, as noted above.
2. No idea; perhaps a token. Maybe take it out of the 2x2 for better pics of both sides?
3. Libya, from the brief period when Libya was a kingdom. Dated 1965.
4. Taiwan $5, Year 70 of the Republic of China (AD 1981).
5. Japan 10 yen, Year 28 of the Showa Emperor (AD 1953).
6. Thailand 25 satang 1946, as noted below. EDITED
7. Japan, cast 100 mon, mid-1800s. May be a replica.
8. Taiwan, $1, Year 49 of the Republic (AD 1960).

Crusty

@Sapyx said:
1. Brass copy of Portuguese gold coin, as noted above.
2. No idea; perhaps a token. Maybe take it out of the 2x2 for better pics of both sides?
3. Libya, from the brief period when Libya was a kingdom. Dated 1965.
4. Taiwan $5, Year 70 of the Republic of China (AD 1981).
5. Japan 10 yen, Year 28 of the Showa Emperor (AD 1953).
6. Japan, cast 100 mon, mid-1800s. May be a replica.
7. Taiwan, $1, Year 49 of the Republic (AD 1960).

Wow! Very helpful! I really appreciate it. This gives me a place to start. I like to find out what the metal composition is and mark it on the 2x2 along with the country and date. I’m separating the silver from the copper and the other base metals. Would you mind if I post more batches as I get stumped on more.

HoledandCreative

5 1/2 (between 5 & 6) Thailand 1946 Child Head. Do list more.

Crusty

Next batch and many more to follow!

Crusty

Here is the 1762 outside of the 2x2

ajaan

6 in original post is from Thailand 🇹🇭

Sapyx

Sorry about mis-counting and omitting the Thai coin. I have edited and corrected my original answer.

That is the main problem with these post-a-whole-bunch-of-coins threads; it requires lots of scrolling up and down, and it's hard to keep track of which coins are which. I'll try to do better with this second batch.

Continuing the counting sequence:

9. Saudi Arabia 1/2 riyal; it's a bit too blurry to read the date. EDITED
10. Ottoman Egypt, 1 qirsh, dated Accession AH 1223 Regnal Year 29 (= AD 1835).
11. Ottoman Turkey (Constantinople mint), 1 qirsh, Accession AH 1293 Regnal year 25 (= AD 1900)
12. Ottoman Egypt, 2 qirsh, dated Accession 1293 Regnal Year 10 (= AD 1885)
13. Brazilian Empire 1000 reis 1862 EDITED
14. Ottoman Turkey (Constantinople), 1 qirsh, Accession 1255 Regnal 15 (= AD 1853)
15. Brazilian Empire 20 reis 1830, counterstamped to 40 reis in 1835
16. This is that coin that was number 2 in the previous set. It's definitely a token rather than a coin.

Crusty

@Sapyx - I am so grateful for the help. How are you able to identify all these? Are you able to read the different languages or is there something else ? I have a lot more to try and identify but don’t know the best way to identify these foreign languages. And have no clue where to start. Posting here is the only way I know of getting the basic information. But certainly don’t want to over step by asking for too much help. Another idea O had is to maybe contact a foreign dealer I met at Long Beach last show and offer to pay him for his time to meet up and go through it. But no clue if he would be into that because I believe he was from way up north. This is something I may explore when I see him in Long Beach next show.

The foreign silver coins are my favorite and I’ve separated them into their own double boxes. The coppers are very cool as well. But I think one of the coolest coins I found is a 1799 German state 1/12 Thaler that has a bear walking on a castle wall. I’ll try to post pics later today.

Thanks again for the help!

Sapyx

I can't read Arabic. However, as a "general world coin collector", I have lots of Islamic coins, from every time period. I also have this book by Richard Plant, to help me understand them. But Arabic numerals are easy enough to translate without a special guide, which helps in identifying the date and denomination.

Specifically for Ottoman coins, there are only two mints from the 1800s era that one is likely to encounter: Misr (Egypt) and Qustantiniyah (Constantinople, Turkey); once you handle enough Ottoman coins, you learn to recognize those two mint-names, so you know where in the catalogues to look for them.

As for more general guidance, there used to be, at the front of every Krause coin catalogue, an "instant identifier" section where you could look through a bunch of images, and use that to help identify the origin of a coin based on similar imagery. I suppose things like the Coinoscope app has largely automated the process and supplanted the need for this.

Crusty

Starting to dwindle down the unknown coins. Here is another batch. One of them is so small about the size of a pea…

HoledandCreative

Pictures are showing up clearer to me. Totally agree with the scrolling problem.

9. Saudi Arabia 1/2 Riyal 1354 - 1935
   13.. 1000 Reis

Sapyx

OK, assuming I haven't lost count again...

17. This isn't actually a coin. It's a jeton, a brass token or counter intended for use on an old abacus-like counting board. dating from the 1400s-1500s, judging from the style of lettering.
18. Indian state of Travancore, copper cash, undated, early 20th century.
19. German play money. It says "5 mark" on it, but the 5 mark coin was a large silver-dollar-sized silver coin.
20. Tunisia 4 kharub, dated AH 1283 (AD 1864)
21. Exactly the same as #20, but the date is AH 1281.
22. Ottoman Egypt, qirsh, dated Accession 1277 Regnal 14 (= AD 1873)
23. Ottoman Turkey, 10 para, dated Accession 1255 Regnal 20 (= AD 1857)

Crusty

Wow, still in awe of your knowledge of these foreign coins.

Here is a coin one….

Crusty

Any idea on these two coins?

John Conduitt

Try looking through Numista https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?ct=coin

Especially when the flip tells you it’s from India, Prussia or China. Bear in mind, milled coins weren’t really around until the 1600s or much later in some countries.

By the way, you should already know how to identify an Ottoman coin from the ones you have.

Crusty

I ended up finding this website that is what I’m trying to use on them….

Sapyx

Continuing the numbering system as above:

24: (China) - pretty much what it says on the wrapper: China, Empire, Kwangtung province, 20 cents. The coin is undated but was struck some time in the period 1890-1908. The "ink chop mark" is curious; can't say I've seen one of those before. It appears to be the character "yuan" in seal script.

25: (India) - Indian States aren't my area of expertise; they all tend to look much alike, and the nature of the production mechanism for these coins means that a lot of the important detail is "off the flan" - the dies were too large for the coin. This coin, for example, is missing a date. I suspect it's either late Mughal Empire, or one of the coins issued by the East India Company. The denomination is either a half-rupee or quarter-rupee, depending on weight.

26: Prussia 6 groscher 1770. Mintmark E, thoguh these only come in one mintmark variety.

Namvet69

@Crusty There's a pretty good coin ID free app for your phone called Coinoscope. It uses OCR software and gives multiple possible matches. You'll become familiar with world coins the more you use it. Good luck. Peace Roy

Crusty

@Namvet69 -I’m going to download it now and look forward exploring it. Thanks for the tip!

tonedSilver

The 1762 coin (#2) is likely Sweden 3 or 6 Öre (Stora Kopparbergs Pollett)

Crusty

I’m at the tail end of going through all the boxes. Hoping someone can help me identify what this is. It appears to be uniface and I believe it reads 1 1/2 Sgr.

I’m guessing it could be a coin weight because I found an Italian coin weight in this collection that was uniface (and quite scarce. Maybe Sgr stands for Silber groschen?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

angelo43

Italian coin weights usually are not scarce. I collect Italian pretty exclusively and see many. Is there a reason that you think the one you have is scarce. Enquiring mind wants to know, not trying to be a jerk about it like many may think

angelo43

BTW looks like a nice collection!

Crusty

@angelo43 - Thanks for the response. It’s a large collection that has taken about me 1 1/2 years to go though. Probably because when I started I knew nothing about world coins at all and I had to go through the boxes as I had time.

I will have to dig out the coin weight and send you a picture. I’ll try to dig it out this weekend . It’s been about a year or more since I found out what that one was. I actually took a small box to the Long Beach coin show and a world coin dealer pulled it out and told me what it was. He used the term scarce but I have not done any research yet to try and find out how scarce.

Crusty

Instead of going to bed I dug out the boxes and found it.

tcollects

always impressive @Sapyx

Göttinger

The second coin you presented (formerly described as a copper token dated 1762) is actually a 6 Öre coin from Sweden.
Also I suppose your token inscribed with 1½ Sgr might be from northern Germany, Sgr was a very common abbreviation for Silbergroschen (a currency unit worth 1/30 of a Thaler, used in Prussia and some other German states between 1821 and they early 1870's).
The 5 Bologni from the Papal States is actually not supposed to be uniface. Sometimes coins from the 1700's get a very uneven wear pattern when they wear down in circulation. I suppose that's the case with your coin.

Best regards!

Crusty

@Göttinger said:
The second coin you presented (formerly described as a copper token dated 1762) is actually a 6 Öre coin from Sweden.
Also I suppose your token inscribed with 1½ Sgr might be from northern Germany, Sgr was a very common abbreviation for Silbergroschen (a currency unit worth 1/30 of a Thaler, used in Prussia and some other German states between 1821 and they early 1870's).
The 5 Bologni from the Papal States is actually not supposed to be uniface. Sometimes coins from the 1700's get a very uneven wear pattern when they wear down in circulation. I suppose that's the case with your coin.

Best regards!

Thanks for the response. On the 1762 I actually was able to find an exact match. I was only able to find this one example. Obviously mine is in very rough shape. Check this out.

My suspicion is that the 1 1/2 Gsr is German and like you said stands for 1 1/2 Groschen. Have no clue if it’s a coin or token. So far I was looking at it as if it was a coin or a weight but I’ll start looking into the idea of it being a token. I need to take it down and get the metal content tested at my LCS. I’m hoping it’s silver.

On the Papal States. I was not able to find a single example that was uniface so that is making me think it’s not worn down on one side. But who knows….