What is the population of the 2007-P Washington Dollar Elongated Ray variety?

CaptHenway

Am just curious to see how well this has caught on since it was recognized as a variety. Anybody have one besides Oakstar?

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13459486#Comment_13459486

ricko

@CaptHenway.... No luck so far, been looking for one... even specifically asked for a bunch of dollar coins... Will keep searching. Cheers, RickO

OAKSTAR

As of today (if I'm reading it correctly) the TPG'er pop reports show the following:

ANACS: 5
PCGS: 2
NGC: 5
ICG: 1
VSS: 2. (I think)

MWallace

I have two of them that came from @OAKSTAR . They are part of the NGC pop above.

OAKSTAR

UPDATE:

ANACS: 6

JWP

@OAKTREE Is with just the P or on both the P & D?

OAKSTAR

@JWP said:
@OAKTREE Is with just the P or on both the P & D?

Just the P's @JWP, as of today anyway.

However, both the A and B positions...which is apparently a completely random number. I guess how the coins fell or were fed into the strike chamber... If those are the correct words.

CaptHenway

@OAKSTAR said:

@JWP said:
@OAKTREE Is with just the P or on both the P & D?

Just the P's @JWP, as of today anyway.

However, both the A and B positions...which is apparently a completely random number. I guess how the coins fell or were fed into the strike chamber... If those are the correct words.

Actually, the edge lettering was applied after the strike. I had a floor tour of the Philly Mint back in 2008 and the way the dollar production line works is that struck dollars fall into a catch basin on the press so that should a die shatter the recent production is still segregated. The press operator looks at a batch and if they seem OK they are dumped into a swinging metal tray on a conveyor belt continuously running past the production line. At the end of the production line the conveyor belt goes straight up and then horizontal again over a walkway where it eventually feeds into dumping the coins into a feed bin on a different machine that lines the coins up, at random, and runs them through a raised letter embossing tool that sinks the edge inscription into each coin. From there they go straight into ballistic bags that get sealed up when they are approximately 4,000 pounds. THe ballistic bags are then shipped to licensed coin depots for rolling and distribution.

JWP

@CaptHenway Wow - very interesting recall of the small $ mint line. Just how did you remember all these small details? Thanks, a real great read.

OAKSTAR

@JWP said:
@CaptHenway Wow - very interesting recall of the small $ mint line. Just how did you remember all these small details? Thanks, a real great read.

And that's why @CaptHenway is the go-to guy! 👍🏻 👍🏻

messydesk

There are also two that I've put a "WUFO-001" label on last August that were raw. I don't know if they still are. I haven't labeled any graded coins.

OAKSTAR

@messydesk said:
There are also two that I've put a "WUFO-001" label on last August that were raw. I don't know if they still are. I haven't labeled any graded coins.

John- I was always a bit confused by John Wexler's unidentified (UFO) designator. But I give him credit for recognizing something was amiss with the coin.

Prior to Feb 15, 20122, I can tell you for a fact that this coin past through the hands and was examined by several well known attributers, names you would easily recognize. I guess for whatever reason at the time, the skill level, knowledge or willingness to put their reputations on the line just wasn't there. Until one man did step up.

Question: Do you have an on-line census or pop report on all the coins you have holdered? Thanks!

OAKSTAR

@OAKSTAR said:
UPDATE:

ANACS: 6

So the ANACS population went up by one. This is the coin. The highest graded I've seen. I'd love to track the guy down who has this coin. Not to buy it, just to talk to him about it. Where did he get it? Where did he find it? Is he the one who submitted it? Did he buy it from someone? Did he sell it to someone? etc..etc..

messydesk

@OAKSTAR said:

@messydesk said:
There are also two that I've put a "WUFO-001" label on last August that were raw. I don't know if they still are. I haven't labeled any graded coins.

John- I was always a bit confused by John Wexler's unidentified (UFO) designator. But I give him credit for recognizing something was amiss with the coin.

Prior to Feb 15, 20122, I can tell you for a fact that this coin past through the hands and was examined by several well known attributers, names you would easily recognize. I guess for whatever reason at the time, the skill level, knowledge or willingness to put their reputations on the line just wasn't there. Until one man did step up.

Question: Do you have an on-line census or pop report on all the coins you have holdered? Thanks!

I don't have that, unfortunately. No time to set up something like that. I'll be labeling coin number 25000 this week. Number 24000 was back in March. My census reports will have a lot of sampling bias in them, as I don't always get random submissions. If you're interested in pops for a few varieties, I can look those up in my database and let you know. I don't have grades included, though.

OAKSTAR

Not a problem John. Thanks for that feedback! 👍🏻

OAKSTAR

UPDATE: If you haven't already seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNsCkyPIgo0

OAKSTAR

Bodin

What is that second letter??

OAKSTAR

@Bodin said:

What is that second letter??

W

messydesk

@Bodin said:

What is that second letter??

Snarky answer:
A "triple-u".

Real answer:
It's supposed to say "2007-P GW WUFO-1". Unfortunately, there isn't enough space for all that on my label. It's an inherent problem when lengthy varieties collide with lengthy date descriptors. I could fix this by reprinting labels using a different layout with a smaller font for this information for the few coins with this problem. Had it been on a John Adams (JA) dollar or were Wexler's last name Jones, this wouldn't have happened. I think an FS number would also fit, but barely.