@lkenefic said:
Mystery solved... sort of... the package was miss-addressed by the seller and delivered to an address that does not exist by USPS. So, I've been in contact with the seller, and he's making it right. In the meantime, I'm going to follow up with my neighbors to see if they have my package... fingers crossed!
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Why would they deliver to a non-existent address? They should have returned it to the sender as undeliverable. They/your carrier can go to the GPS location [assuming the carrier was so equipped] it was delivered to and retrieve it. Just effen dumb on their part.
@1madman said:
I mentioned this in the other thread that ebay sellers put a random address that isn’t mine (or even close to it) on the packages, and there seemed to be disbelief. I have this happen quite frequently, so I know what you’re going through. Sometimes it’s easier to fix than others.
Still is. You were claiming it happened after it was stolen. Makes no sense.
I’m a bit confused on why you’re confused? Sellers put a wrong/phony address with your correct zip code to show proper delivery. All ebay/PayPal requires is tracking showing delivery to your zip code. They have no clue if it made it to your exact address or not.
So an ebay seller can mail a box of rocks to an address 5 blocks away (still within your zip code) and attempt to get away with it.
Nobody else has dealt with this fiasco? Really?
They. DO know the exact delivery address.
There's no point to it. And again, that last thread said they were changing the labels after stealing them from the mail stream. THAT makes zero sense. The PO would know you did it.
As for an ebay seller running a scam, they would be better off shipping an empty box to the right address.
You simply can't get away with anything as you lay it out. The post office photographs the labels, so they'll know they were misadressed. They also use GPS to locate delivery, so they would know where they were delivered. The seller is responsible and will be held responsible by eBay. At most, you could pull this once as a form of insurance fraud assuming the post office would pay for your mistake. But shipping an empty box would accomplish the same thing.
Several things to unpack in this statement. My scenarios have nothing to do with filing an insurance claim against the post office, just want to make that clear. Also, I have not had the experience of a mailing label tracking number get switched on my package, yet.
How do I obtain the photo the post office takes of a mailing label on a package? If I can get that picture, it would save me many headaches with trying to handle the claims with the scammers. Informed delivery doesn’t provide those photos.
How do I obtain a document showing a gps delivery of the package was delivered to another address? If I can get that document, it will serve proof for an item not delivered case.
People talk about these safeguards in delivering the merchandise, but I’ve yet to see physical evidence of them to help out in fraud cases.
You’ve got to keep in mind that what ebay scam sellers do is wait for the PayPal payment to be deposited into their bank account before they ship the item. They drain the account, ship an empty box to either the correct or incorrect address (correct zip code), and ebay has no recourse from that account. Ebay has to eat the loss if the refund is made. Seller opens another account and does the process again. It’s quite simple and effective.
Sign up for informed delivery at www.usps.com and your supposed to get pics of the mail that you're going to receive each day, but in my experience the pics don't include packages with a tracking number. Not sure that it's retroactive tho.
FWIW yesterday I got a letter envelope that I was expecting, but there was no pic of it.
BTW tracking usually indicates specifically where it was left like mailbox, doorstep, etc.
@lkenefic said:
OK... final resolution to this comedy of errors...
The seller mis-typed a number in my address that resulted in an address that does not exist. However, the erroneous address was accepted by the vendor he uses. The postal carrier tried to figure it out since Google Maps would only give an approximate location so he thought that two numbers had been transposed so he delivered it across the street. In the meantime, I went to my local PO Saturday morning and they were able to contact the carrier directly to alert him of the situation. Since it involved going into someone else's mailbox, they advised me to let the carrier take care of it... which I did. I actually got the chance to speak to my carrier directly when he was delivering my mail... so... he was able to retrieve the package and bring it to me. Unopened with contents intact... I then let the seller know, and life is grand!
Bottom line... check and recheck the address since some mail delivery services seemingly accept any address, even ones that don't exist!
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@lkenefic said:
OK... final resolution to this comedy of errors...
The seller mis-typed a number in my address that resulted in an address that does not exist. However, the erroneous address was accepted by the vendor he uses. The postal carrier tried to figure it out since Google Maps would only give an approximate location so he thought that two numbers had been transposed so he delivered it across the street. In the meantime, I went to my local PO Saturday morning and they were able to contact the carrier directly to alert him of the situation. Since it involved going into someone else's mailbox, they advised me to let the carrier take care of it... which I did. I actually got the chance to speak to my carrier directly when he was delivering my mail... so... he was able to retrieve the package and bring it to me. Unopened with contents intact... I then let the seller know, and life is grand!
Bottom line... check and recheck the address since some mail delivery services seemingly accept any address, even ones that don't exist!
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Why would they deliver to a non-existent address? They should have returned it to the sender as undeliverable. They/your carrier can go to the GPS location [assuming the carrier was so equipped] it was delivered to and retrieve it. Just effen dumb on their part.
Sign up for informed delivery at www.usps.com and your supposed to get pics of the mail that you're going to receive each day, but in my experience the pics don't include packages with a tracking number. Not sure that it's retroactive tho.
FWIW yesterday I got a letter envelope that I was expecting, but there was no pic of it.
BTW tracking usually indicates specifically where it was left like mailbox, doorstep, etc.
So did you get your package?
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Yes... it all worked out. The comedy of errors...
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Glad it worked out for you.