Thieves who robbed dealer's car caught
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INVESTIGATING AGENCY: Cherokee County, SC
TYPE OF INCIDENT: VEHICLE BURGLARY
INCIDENT LOCATION: CHEROKEE, SC
DATE OCCURRED: 3/5/23
A dealer heading home from the recent TSNS coin show was the victim of a vehicle burglary. The victim stopped to eat and while inside two suspects gained entry into the vehicle. A witness who was across the street observed the offense and provided a description of the suspect vehicle to responding officers.
The suspects were driving a Silver Honda Pilot with a blacked out rear plate. A Cherokee County Sheriff’s Deputy spotted the vehicle and made a traffic stop without incident. The suspects were arrested, and all cash and coins were recovered. The suspects are from Colombia and are being held without bond due to being flight risks. It is believed that the suspects were also in the company of a female who was acting suspicious at the show but attempts to locate her were unsuccessful.
Anyone with information contact:
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
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Book 'em Dano.
bob
Good news. They'll probably be deported although they deserve some jail time.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
She'll probably recruit two more an do it again more carefully. Her image from any security footage at the show could be helpful.
Throw the book at them.
Great news! The witness likely deserves a reward and a big thank you!
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Flight risk?? That's gotta be a joke! They're probably already OUT!!!
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I hope they spend 25 years in prison.
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Good to hear, but sadly all for naught. If deported they can easily reenter through the southern border free to commit more crimes.
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I'd unfortunately be surprised if they get either. 😕
The dealer is very lucky that they were caught.
Agreed. This is like a miracle in my book.
Where I live the cops don't want to be bothered unless there's a dead body laying about.
This is why when I'm on the road with coins I make sure I can see my vehicle through the window when stopping, and of course I usually have my fav Austrian piece by my side.
Depends on the local prosecutor and which attorneys they hire; it is scandalous and dangerous when law and order breaks down in society and the criminal justice system no longer works to protect the innocent (coin dealer).
In today's woke "culture," one has to wonder if the thieves will do any time. Good is now evil, and evil is now good.
Why leave valuables in your vehicle at all, when stopping?
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Glad to hear they got caught.
The dealer should have never made any stops with valuables in his vehicle. Like others said, he got lucky that they were caught.
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A good question, if I'm not carrying anything bulky I will have it on my person or If I stop at a rest stop where I can't see my vehicle I will take my coins with me. However, When at a restaurant I weight the risk of armed robbery vs. breaking into my truck. Even though odds are significantly greater for break in, I usually have my valuables in some hidden places and It gives me the edge in a confrontation because I'm watching the thief and have a strong probability to have thief in my sights locked and loaded while they are looking for valuables. Armed robbery is not a good scenario and its unlikely I would reach for my sidearm if the thief is armed and I don't have the advantage. Of course this is all speculation since I never have encountered either scenario and who knows how I will ultimately act, but it is how I rationalize my actions under each scenario.
On a side note, while I was newly married in the 80s living in southwest Dallas, I woke up in the middle of the night to discover a thief in my bedroom. Wasn't the best neighborhood. He ran when he realized I woke up, grabbed my gun under the bed, chased him over the backyard fence, saw him get in his car and drive off. I noted his plates, called the police and he was subsequently arrested.
Edit: just a subsequent note that I paced the house at night for weeks into months. Took a long time to get over the experience and sleep comfortably again. Not a good scenario you ever want to experience.
Need to be careful at shows. Be aware of your surroundings! You just don't know who's watching you while negotiating that trade. It's often a long walk from the show's front door to your car. Buddy up if you can and carry a big stick!
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Most likely, from what I've seen, they'll do their time here in the U.S. then get deported.
It would be interesting to know if the thieves were at the show and followed him or just a random car theft. Sadly some from other countries are flying into country for weekend thievery like some fly to Vegas looking for coin and fun.
Make them grade master boxes of ASE for the next twenty years. All the same date!
Cruel and unusual punishment. They would go insane in a few weeks.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
Great news.... We must get better at security, so these events are less likely to occur. It is reported here many times, vehicle broken into while dealer is in restaurant.... likely followed from show... Take precautions, pack a lunch, park where visible if you must leave the car. Bring a friend to wait in the car... lots of options. Cheers, RickO
When I drive to show with inventory it is nonstop unless go thru drive thru. I don’t leave the car. Obey traffic rules, speed limit, check rear view mirror, etc.. Furthermore when loading / unloading one needs do it in one trip and be cognizant who’s around outside the bourse room. Having a gun good too.
At show lock cases when leaving table. Don’t allow anyone open cases or take inventory from table unless paid for. Keep any ref material in bc behind table. Most offers to any sellers I refer to my phone - CDN, TPG, Kitco. If showing stack of currency / inventory to customer keep eye on them resist distractions.
With this story I bet the "female" dropped an airtag in the dealer's coins. Then her "friends" had the tracking number to follow the dealer wherever they went without them even knowing it. I'm surprised no one mentioned anything about thieves using Airtags or tracking devices on cars. Some mentioned looking for someone tailing you or taking the coins in stores or security. The thieves could follow you all the way home without you ever seeing them. Doesn't anyone check their property or cars for airtags - bugs ???
Thank you.
How many times does this happen, where someone just has to stop and eat with a car full of inventory sitting out there?
Two words people...DRIVE THRU. or better yet, just head home and then go out to eat after you've secured everything.
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Good things happen when individuals report bad activity to the police, instead of just ignoring it and moving on.
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Don't forget that if they can follow you to the restaurant, they can follow you to your house. Its been done before.
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Reminder that thieves are also following bank customers after they leave the bank. If you visit a bank to pick up coin rolls or visit your safe deposit box, make sure you take precautions!
I must do better at this.
I agree. Kinda like misinformation is evil until it becomes a good strategy. Or canceling research on health issues in mining communities with significant cancer and birth defect rates suddenly becomes a good thing for these people. Are cancer and birth defects good things these days? It's hard to tell now.
Oil companies discovering and acknowledging ACC is real and happening until they claim it isn't. And how greenhouse gasses are now a blessing and we need 20 times more of it than we have now, despite its physical properties.
Regulations are evil now until you find tons of vinyl chloride in your world and have little recourse to address the problem. Mercury is not a problem anymore!
Good scientists have now formed a massive conspiracy to become bad woke scientists. Even the prestigious National Academy of Sciences has become infiltrated with these bad woke scientists! Don't they know that coal has become beautiful and "clean" now?
I've been blessed and should give tours for y'all of the "good" and beautiful things I've seen in a lifetime working around power plants, coal mines, and the Florida Everglades. After the tour, we can quench our thirsts with cold lemonade made from fly ash runoff or screwdrivers made with orange acid mine drainage.
My favorite good-evil flip are the Judges OK'ing drilling for oil immediately upstream of Everglades NP despite the oil spill issues in Big Cypress NR. Didn't know that? That's because oil spills in Big Cypress are a GOOD THING now! Even better is keeping these accidents out of the news.
What?
@coinbuf "If deported they can easily reenter through the southern border free to commit more crimes."
This story was in South Carolina. Perhaps they are from Columbia, S.C.
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I see the spelling now, Colombia
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Anyone have a custom alarm system on their vehicle? Back in the day, I used to do Babaco installs for various reps of valuables.
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Good these thieves need severe penalties!!! Stealing is an evil thing!!!
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If you find the airtag tape it to a city bus.
make them eat all the coins
Sharia law would curtail a lot of this crime.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
Yes it would or at least you could tell who is a thief and who is not in a lot of cases once punishment had been laid down. Turning the other cheek is not working out well as most people are starting to see. The USA is slowly fading away because tough love is not applied enough. Drug addicts/homeless all over the place and most large cities look like a mess and are dangerous.
Nah just leave as is how bad could it get right?
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