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Type 1 Liberty $20 NEWP! 1857-S -edited with better pictures-

ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 7, 2023 4:49PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I’ve waited quite some time to find an original example of one of these, and this proves that patience will eventually pay off!
I’m very pleased with this example, especially at my price of $2,000 >:)

Better pictures, much more accurate in-hand look here:

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  • LJenkins11LJenkins11 Posts: 797 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great looking example.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland... Very nice old gold.... I often wish the history of these coins could be reviewed like a historical video. I imagine what they may have purchased and the people that carried them. Cheers, RickO

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not crazy about it. Too many small marks for my taste, especially on a date that is available in quantity in high grade as a result of sea salvage from the S.S. Central America.

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  • justindanjustindan Posts: 770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome NEWP! I like the circulated historical look.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a beautiful and interesting addition.
    Congratulations👍👌

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  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    I'm not crazy about it. Too many small marks for my taste, especially on a date that is available in quantity in high grade as a result of sea salvage from the S.S. Central America.

    Seriously?
    For 2k, PCGS holstered, Type I, and in decent condition it is (almost) a steal.

    Well done!

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good job. How can you go wrong with a reasonably attractive DE from 1857 that’s in a PCGS 50 holder with only a small premium?

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everybody!
    Indeed it has bag marks, but for the grade I’m more than pleased with it.

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  • Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well done! What a great piece of history at a great price!

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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well done sir!

  • BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A very attractive and original type 1 double eagle. Well done!

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats, very nice new(old) gold piece for your collection.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,462 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice example!

    Congrats!!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice type coin. What's market on this coin and how did you get it at that price? Thanks for sharing.

  • maymay Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, very cheap for old gold!

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  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a great price.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 It's a perk while working at a coin shop. It came in and I snatched it up right away.
    The boss knew I've been looking for a nice, original T1 $20. B)

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice example, thanks for sharing.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For 2k I would break a record getting my wallet out for that one.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    @logger7 It's a perk while working at a coin shop. It came in and I snatched it up right away.
    The boss knew I've been looking for a nice, original T1 $20. B)

    I thought that GS bid was higher, but looks like to be around $2000 but who can get them for that?
    https://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/details/1857-s-ms/8922

  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great coin and price.

    Many happy BST transactions
  • zer0manzer0man Posts: 47 ✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    I'm not crazy about it. Too many small marks for my taste, especially on a date that is available in quantity in high grade as a result of sea salvage from the S.S. Central America.

    To each their own.
    I do not see the appeal of the overly processed look many of the sea salvaged coins come with.

    DOG acolyte

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:

    @asheland said:
    @logger7 It's a perk while working at a coin shop. It came in and I snatched it up right away.
    The boss knew I've been looking for a nice, original T1 $20. B)

    I thought that GS bid was higher, but looks like to be around $2000 but who can get them for that?
    https://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/details/1857-s-ms/8922

    That’s correct, the printed gray sheet was something like 2080? I checked my phone because I have the app, and it was like right at 2000, but like you were just saying, you can’t touch them for that at least not an original one like this.

    I’m very happy with the purchase plus, it’s a type I’ve needed for a while and I’m very happy with the way it looks.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    New pictures, updated here as well:

    for those revisiting the thread

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,064 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 7, 2023 6:10PM

    Interesting how the circulated 1857-S $20 is more scarce than the SSCA shipwreck group! Plus you got it for barely above bullion pricing!

    These S mint $20 Libs that truly circulated on the West Coast normally come with significant bag marks but this coin looks very decent for the grade. If you can get JA to sticker it then you hit a homerun. Even without the CAC sticker, you hit a nice single or double.

    Reminds me of the depression era 1931-S cent which is harder to find in very worn circulated condition than in mint state.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Indeed it definitely needs to go to CAC at some point. 👍

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  • jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great job! What was the source? A local show?

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonruns said:
    Great job! What was the source? A local show?

    It walked into the B&M I work at. 👍

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  • HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely the thing I dislike the most about it is YOU found it before me!😂
    Nice coin, nice price!
    Congrats!

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. :smiley:

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  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭

    Say hello! to that titmouse for me. :p

    Nice coin, too! :)

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  • HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:

    These S mint $20 Libs that truly circulated on the West Coast normally come with significant bag marks but this coin looks very decent for the grade. If you can get JA to sticker it then you hit a homerun. Even without the CAC sticker, you hit a nice single or double.

    Shucks, not just the S ones. I have a ‘89 Philly CAC in 62 that has more than it’s fair share of marks! They really treated those babies rough, back in the day!😉
    HB

  • D808LFD808LF Posts: 496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love it long time. ;)

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  • Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice to have a non shipwreck example. It must have sucked for people to own Orig MS coins before the the Central America hoard. I have an MS66+, super coin for the type but unheard of 30 years ago.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it ESPECIALLY because it has not spent over a century sitting on the bottom of the ocean.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2023 10:07AM

    Exactly! This one was out and about in commerce, it’s got some stories to tell.

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  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice! An honest example and a good showpiece.

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  • MrBlusterMrBluster Posts: 344 ✭✭✭

    Very nice.

  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! Great coin, and a steal at that price.

    mirabela
  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2023 5:47PM

    I really like the color and eye appeal of this coin for an AU-50 $20! Also love that it is an early date from San Francisco.

  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,064 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2023 9:30PM

    i happen to own both a gorgeous PCGS/CAC MS-65 1857-S $20 SSCA and a circulated PCGS/CAC 1857-S non SSCA $20.

    I like these circulated $20’s more including yours.

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  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2023 10:25PM

    @291fifth said:
    I'm not crazy about it. Too many small marks for my taste, especially on a date that is available in quantity in high grade as a result of sea salvage from the S.S. Central America.

    Of course, you'll pay up for an 1857-S in high-AU or low-MS grade. I believe the SSCA still command a premium to non-SSCA but it has narrowed in recent years.

    What's an AU-58 (SSCA or non-SSCA) go for ?

  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @asheland... Very nice old gold.... I often wish the history of these coins could be reviewed like a historical video. I imagine what they may have purchased and the people that carried them. Cheers, RickO

    Hoard stories are FASCINATING. The SSCA 1850's are super-unique of course.

  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to believe they really went along with "D." instead of spelling out "Dollars" !!! :)

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:
    i happen to own both a gorgeous PCGS/CAC MS-65 1857-S $20 SSCA and a circulated PCGS/CAC 1857-S non SSCA $20.

    I like these circulated $20’s more including yours.

    Please post them here. I’d love to see both! 👍

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's mine just for fun. Current AU55 CAC, was NGC AU58 CAC

  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice coin!

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:
    Here's mine just for fun. Current AU55 CAC, was NGC AU58 CAC

    Very nice! 👍

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