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1914-D Lincoln Cent - What's going on here!?

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amateur crud removal attempt


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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! Must be that the blank (then after upsetting the planchet) had an air bubble that burst or something got into the copper. Looks like the strike happened after the mint made damage. Curious what others have to say..

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @telephoto1 said:
    Amateur crud removal attempt

    ^this^

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    Should not have received a straight grade imo.

    That's why I'm baffled by this one.

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  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen similar discoloration or staining on early coppers that were straight-graded. Have wondered what the rationale was or is.

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be a planchet flaw from improper mix in the metal.

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  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you mean besides the rotated reverse?

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a purchase I would want

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin would be a hard pass.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,396 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin has some serious problems on the reverse. I'm guessing that slab may have been opened and this inferior coin was substituted for a nicer coin that was originally in that slab.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,093 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Improper alloy mix AND lamination flaw AND graders looked around that mess. IMO

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  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen what copper coins look like when you use ammonia (or similar caustic chemical agents) to remove a corrosion spot. They look like this. Moonscape cratering, with an overall pinkish-orange colour. Looks like they just placed a couple of drops of chemical onto the coin at the corrosion spots, rather than soaking the entire coin, otherwise the whole coin would have turned orange.

    I have difficulty believing NGC straight-graded it with this obvious problem.

    I will note that there seems to be enough die rotation to qualify as such. Unless the coin somehow got rotated inside the slab in between those two pictures.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too bad it has that reverse. The coin itself looks good. It's a nice, mid-grade key.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is hard to accurately determine exactly what the issue is from those picture. Looks like surface damage around the C, but cannot really see enough detail. Certainly appears to have had some chemical applied to the reverse. Cheers, RickO

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2023 9:41AM

    It’s simply a circulated coin. Average Quality (C coin). The dark rev area probably acquired during circulation. Agree with their straight grade. For me would fill the hole in set OK but would be open to upgrade at some point.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    That coin has some serious problems on the reverse. I'm guessing that slab may have been opened and this inferior coin was substituted for a nicer coin that was originally in that slab.

    Surprisingly it shows this very coin on the cert page! :#

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just checked, it does indeed have a slightly rotated reverse.

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Key dates get all the breaks,
    but this one didn't have what it takes.

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    That coin has some serious problems on the reverse. I'm guessing that slab may have been opened and this inferior coin was substituted for a nicer coin that was originally in that slab.

    Curious when that would have happened- looks like the same coin from the current NGC cert:

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Surprisingly not "details"?. So that crap on the reverse was from the strike? Hmmmmmmmmm

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any kind of lamination/delamination?

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  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If not improperly cleaned, that coin looks like it should be designated with Environmental Damage.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is the best that I can do with my phone, but I’m seeing environmental damage all the way AND cleaning.

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