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Any opinions? I found this coin roll hunting. 2020 W American Samoa Quarter. Struck through debris? Missing te in states. Submit? Sell as is? Thanks

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2023 5:37PM

    Not the best pictures but it's possible. If it is a struck thru, it may have a small premium. Good eye, finding it! 👍🏻

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm guessing we'de need pictures that are really blurry to prove your point!

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"



  • Any better?

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, sure does look like a strike through - Grease?

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    Thanks, sure does look like a strike through - Grease?

    That would be my guess as well. Grease filled die. Neat find!

    Best regards,
    Dwayne F. Sessom
    Ebay ID: V-Nickel-Coins
  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the coin was found in a roll of mixed circulated older quarters and not in a new 2020 coin roll of Weir then I wouldn't submit if your plan is to sell it anyway. The grade will be low.

    It appears to me that it is a strike through BUT that is just my opinion.

    Either way, great find and congratulations! Also thank you for sharing the W quarter!😎

  • It was in a circulated box, but still glad to find it. I have 1 other that is better. This one was pulled fr


    om a full box of all 2020 tall grass prairie that had quite a few W's in it. I believe this is a strike through also. Nicer condition also.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2023 8:50PM

    Two nice struck thru's! They seem to be fairly common on these W's. I always thought Philly was the one with the quality control issues.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Two nice struck thru's! They seem to be fairly common on these W's. I always thought Philly was the one with the quality control issues.

    How do you know they are many W strike through quarters?

    I don't think these are fairly common at all....

    Please explain. 🤔

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I haven't seen any other W's miss ng let rs. Very cool strike throughs. Looks like stitches near the V75.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two nice struck through's .... Good finds. First I have seen on W quarters.... Cheers, RickO

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Two nice struck thru's! They seem to be fairly common on these W's. I always thought Philly was the one with the quality control issues.

    How do you know they are many W strike through quarters?

    I don't think these are fairly common at all....

    Please explain. 🤔

    I know, because I have several. If I have several of anything in my collection, tells me they are common. Most people have never seen and W quarter with a struck thru because most people have never found or have actually held a W quarter in-hand.

    I'm assuming (and maybe I shouldn't be), those of us who have been lucky enough to find W quarters, are also seeing these struck thru's. On the other-hand, how many collectors are out there (not on any coin forums), finding W quarters and have no idea, never heard of or would even know what a struck thru looks like? Most collectors would probably just think it's damage.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • I don't believe they are very common. I have personally pulled just over 900 W quarters from circulation while coin role hunting boxes and bank bags over the last 3 years. My best box was 84 tall grass prairie W's from one uncirculated bank box. I have only found these 2 strike through coins. With mintage of each coin being 2 million only for each design, I would think errors are not that common.

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Two nice struck thru's! They seem to be fairly common on these W's. I always thought Philly was the one with the quality control issues.

    How do you know they are many W strike through quarters?

    I don't think these are fairly common at all....

    Please explain. 🤔

    I know, because I have several. If I have several of anything in my collection, tells me they are common. Most people have never seen and W quarter with a struck thru because most people have never found or have actually held a W quarter in-hand.

    I'm assuming (and maybe I shouldn't be), those of us who have been lucky enough to find W quarters, are also seeing these struck thru's. On the other-hand, how many collectors are out there (not on any coin forums), finding W quarters and have no idea, never heard of or would even know what a struck thru looks like? Most collectors would probably just think it's damage.

    The keyword you used was "assume"....😉

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2023 11:23AM

    @SHAWNK4368

    Hey Shawn! Did you send them off to be graded? 🤔

    Would love to see the results😎

  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it, great find.

    Many happy BST transactions
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice ones!

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I have had 3 W Quarter's pulled from circulation and have had no strike thru's, so they must be at least R9. lol
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2023 5:24PM

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Two nice struck thru's! They seem to be fairly common on these W's. I always thought Philly was the one with the quality control issues.

    How do you know they are many W strike through quarters?

    I don't think these are fairly common at all....

    Please explain. 🤔

    I know, because I have several. If I have several of anything in my collection, tells me they are common. Most people have never seen and W quarter with a struck thru because most people have never found or have actually held a W quarter in-hand.

    I'm assuming (and maybe I shouldn't be), those of us who have been lucky enough to find W quarters, are also seeing these struck thru's. On the other-hand, how many collectors are out there (not on any coin forums), finding W quarters and have no idea, never heard of or would even know what a struck thru looks like? Most collectors would probably just think it's damage.

    The keyword you used was "assume"....😉

    Yes, that's right. And I'm "ASSUMING" these are struck thru's. I could be wrong. You're apparently the expert here on W quarters! 😉 You wanta see some more??

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Two nice struck thru's! They seem to be fairly common on these W's. I always thought Philly was the one with the quality control issues.

    It's the first time I've seen any errors coming out of West Point.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 421 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2023 5:11PM

    I posted these last year (not sure if I saved the link correctly) I have searched hundreds of rolls and was lucky enough to find a good number of W mint quarters. I found these two which to me seemed a high proportion when I consider one more Am Sam I'm aware of and the ones on this post. I don't feel it's the W mint in general, but this particular design seems to have been high in strike throughs. [img]uploaded/smuglr/20220519_20220519_201712-1.jpg[/img]

    Well that didn't work lol. June 2021 "Opinions of W mint error"

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Two nice struck thru's! They seem to be fairly common on these W's. I always thought Philly was the one with the quality control issues.

    How do you know they are many W strike through quarters?

    I don't think these are fairly common at all....

    Please explain. 🤔

    I know, because I have several. If I have several of anything in my collection, tells me they are common. Most people have never seen and W quarter with a struck thru because most people have never found or have actually held a W quarter in-hand.

    I'm assuming (and maybe I shouldn't be), those of us who have been lucky enough to find W quarters, are also seeing these struck thru's. On the other-hand, how many collectors are out there (not on any coin forums), finding W quarters and have no idea, never heard of or would even know what a struck thru looks like? Most collectors would probably just think it's damage.

    The keyword you used was "assume"....😉

    Yes, that's right. And I'm "ASSUMING" these are struck thru's. I could be wrong. You're apparently the expert here on W quarters! 😉 You wanta see some more??

    You stated that because you have several examples of strike throughs that a struck through W quarter must be "common".

    This is not true in my opinion. I have found or bought over a thousand W quarters and I have only found 3. Also, after 4 years of the first W being produced I haven't seen many strike through W quarters being posted on this forum or elsewhere for that matter.

    Also, you assume that I am a W quarter expert which I have not nor ever will claim to be one. However, I do consider myself knowledgeable of W quarters and I take exception to your assumptions.

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @smuglr said:
    I posted these last year (not sure if I saved the link correctly) I have searched hundreds of rolls and was lucky enough to find a good number of W mint quarters. I found these two which to me seemed a high proportion when I consider one more Am Sam I'm aware of and the ones on this post. I don't feel it's the W mint in general, but this particular design seems to have been high in strike throughs. [img]uploaded/smuglr/20220519_20220519_201712-1.jpg[/img]

    Well that didn't work lol. June 2021 "Opinions of W mint error"

    There were 2 million of each W quarter produced and a total of 20 million overall and you consider 10 or 20 strike through examples to be "common"?

    I disagree.....

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2023 7:19PM

    Keep in mind that a strikethrough on a modern mass produced US coin is normally part of a number of the coins in sequence being struck with foreign material present on the die. The strikethrough usually become smaller ands/or rotated on subsequent coins as the foreign material eventually leaves the die or the mistake is noted by the pressman(woman) and the die gets immediately cleaned or swapped out.

    I once opened a fresh roll of quarters and found 6 strike throughs (no W's) bearing the same strikethrough but in various stages.

    I searched thousands of new rolls looking for W's and can report that I found no more than 20 strikethroughs on ANY of the rolled quarters. Probably found about 7 W's with the affliction.

    Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Keep in mind that a strikethrough on a modern mass produced US coin is normally part of a number of the coins in sequence being struck with foreign material present on the die. The strikethrough usually become smaller ands/or rotated on subsequent coins as the foreign material eventually leaves the die or the mistake is noted by the pressman(woman) and the die gets immediately cleaned or swapped out.

    I once opened a fresh roll of quarters and found 6 strike throughs (no W's) bearing the same strikethrough but in various stages.

    I searched thousands of new rolls looking for W's and can report that I found no more than 20 strikethroughs on ANY of the rolled quarters. Probably found about 7 W's with the affliction.

    Thank you for the clarification and support. I know you have plenty of experience with the W quarters too.

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 421 ✭✭✭✭

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @smuglr said:
    I posted these last year (not sure if I saved the link correctly) I have searched hundreds of rolls and was lucky enough to find a good number of W mint quarters. I found these two which to me seemed a high proportion when I consider one more Am Sam I'm aware of and the ones on this post. I don't feel it's the W mint in general, but this particular design seems to have been high in strike throughs. [img]uploaded/smuglr/20220519_20220519_201712-1.jpg[/img]

    Well that didn't work lol. June 2021 "Opinions of W mint error"

    There were 2 million of each W quarter produced and a total of 20 million overall and you consider 10 or 20 strike through examples to be "common"?

    I disagree.....

    I said nothing about"common" I said this particular issue (the Am Sam) seemed to have a high proportion of strike throughs in relation to other W mint quarters and that I didn't feel it was a West Point issue so much as a die or dies of this design and timing of production.
    And I stand by that opinion.

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @smuglr said:

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @smuglr said:
    I posted these last year (not sure if I saved the link correctly) I have searched hundreds of rolls and was lucky enough to find a good number of W mint quarters. I found these two which to me seemed a high proportion when I consider one more Am Sam I'm aware of and the ones on this post. I don't feel it's the W mint in general, but this particular design seems to have been high in strike throughs. [img]uploaded/smuglr/20220519_20220519_201712-1.jpg[/img]

    Well that didn't work lol. June 2021 "Opinions of W mint error"

    There were 2 million of each W quarter produced and a total of 20 million overall and you consider 10 or 20 strike through examples to be "common"?

    I disagree.....

    I said nothing about"common" I said this particular issue (the Am Sam) seemed to have a high proportion of strike throughs in relation to other W mint quarters and that I didn't feel it was a West Point issue so much as a die or dies of this design and timing of production.
    And I stand by that opinion.

    I guess I "assumed" high proportion meant common 🤣😂

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    You stated that because you have several examples of strike throughs that a struck through W quarter must be "common".

    This is not true in my opinion. I have found or bought over a thousand W quarters and I have only found 3. Also, after 4 years of the first W being produced I haven't seen many strike through W quarters being posted on this forum or elsewhere for that matter.

    Also, you assume that I am a W quarter expert which I have not nor ever will claim to be one. However, I do consider myself knowledgeable of W quarters and I take exception to your assumptions.

    Wow! Over a thousand?? Really?? You're a novice... Come see me when you hit 2,500!

    Take as many exceptions as you like. 🤣 😉

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    You stated that because you have several examples of strike throughs that a struck through W quarter must be "common".

    This is not true in my opinion. I have found or bought over a thousand W quarters and I have only found 3. Also, after 4 years of the first W being produced I haven't seen many strike through W quarters being posted on this forum or elsewhere for that matter.

    Also, you assume that I am a W quarter expert which I have not nor ever will claim to be one. However, I do consider myself knowledgeable of W quarters and I take exception to your assumptions.

    Wow! Over a thousand?? Really?? You're a novice... Come see me when you hit 2,500!

    Take as many exceptions as you like. 🤣 😉

    So you admit you only found 5 strike throughs out of over 2500 W quarters you found.

    Thank you for confirming that W strike throughs are not common

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 421 ✭✭✭✭




    There are strike throughs and there are STRIKE THROUGHS ☺

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @smuglr said:



    There are strike throughs and there are STRIKE THROUGHS ☺

    Agreed but is that a W quarter?🤔

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 421 ✭✭✭✭

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    @smuglr said:



    There are strike throughs and there are STRIKE THROUGHS ☺

    Agreed but is that a W quarter?🤔

    Yes these are 2 W mint quarters. Originally posted here in June 2021 as "Opinions of W mint error". I tried to attach the link earlier in this thread but I obviously did it incorrectly. I could rarely get full boxes, but could get 10-20 rolls from different banks. I still have a few new rolls of WFP quarters from the bank these came in and am tempted often to check for more, but the odds are against it. :smile:

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are mine that are graded by our host 😎



  • SHAWNK4368SHAWNK4368 Posts: 50 ✭✭

    Sorry, been away from the site for a while. I have not sent mine for grading yet, but plan to. I am no expert either, but I have only found 3 examples of strike throughs on W quarters. Glad to have them!!

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