It's been years in the making: My "New" Old Green Holder PCGS Ike Registry
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I knew years ago I couldn't compete with the top honors of the Ike basic set- Mintstate and Proofs in the higher echelons of grades and preservation. Instead, I sought to find each of these coins in the Old Green Holders. Some were somewhat easy to locate- like the S mint business strikes—others proved to be a bit more complicated, like the clad proofs.
Well, I finished the set this afternoon upon the arrival of the last coin and built this Registry.
It was fun as well as challenging without breaking the bank.
It'll never be a "top set" yet I've made peace with that conclusion and will enjoy being in 73rd place.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/dollars/eisenhower-dollars-major-sets/eisenhower-dollars-basic-set-circulation-strikes-proof-1971-1978/publishedset/356821
Edited to add (01-28-2023):
I've upgraded four of these Ikes.
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I think it's a pretty dang cool set!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Very, very cool!
Obviously a prime example of the stricter grading standards during the timeframe of the " old green holders ". Quite an accomplishment. Congratulations sir.
Thanks, guys.
Some of these Ikes have the original Teletrade sticker on the back of the slabs. These were purchased back when Teletrade would send out newsprint catalogs of their auctions. Remember those? They would do telephone bidding on the day of the auction (usually in the afternoon).
I can still hear the automated Teletrade voice prompting the lot number and then the bid.
Ahhh. . . good times!
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Around the same time as those telephone Teletrade bids was Numismatists Online. Remember them? An online auction platform that didn't last very long, perhaps a year, but was super-duper high tech back in 1993-1994!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
I remember my 11 digit teletrade number....
Great Looking Set. I love the consistency of the OGHs. For me having one type of holder vs a mish mash of plastic makes the coins look that much better, not that your IKEs needed any help!
Looks great!
Congratulations. Very nice set.
I looked at the photos of the coins in their slabs.
Very interesting to see that the grades are very uniform (MS64 on the clad circulation strikes, MS66 and 67 on the silver; and PF68DCAM on the proofs). Not a single coin in these three groupings that were graded at a "loftier" level (MS65 or above on the clad circulation strikes; MS68 and above on the silver; and PF69CAM or DCAM and above on the proofs).
I wonder what grades these coins would receive today if cracked out (with a few being conserved to remove haze and spots) and submitted raw for grading.
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Excellent points.
I went for the best possible and didn't happen upon any in the grades you described.
Another somewhat interesting note:
On many of these issues- especially so with the "S" mint silvers, Rattlers were more common than the
green inserts I was seeking.
I'd also note not too many of the clad proofs were graded back then as, really, they weren't worth much and
clad proof sets could be had in bulk anytime, anyplace.
PCGS charged more per coin back in 1990/1991 than they do today, so it was foolhardy to spend on getting common
coins- such as these Ikes graded.
Remember, too; these coins were only 15- twenty years old when graded and the grading of moderns was disdained amount some seasoned dealers/collectors.
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Amazing collection. Do you happen to know what year PCGS started grading the clad IKES?
The July 2003 population report had less than 40K business strikes graded.
These Ikes were graded before the 2003 POP report (shown above).
They are of the 3.1 generation.
https://www.pcgs.com/holdermuseum/Gen3.1
If anyone has a POP report from 1998, that would be an accurate indication of the total population of Ikes graded during this time frame.
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PCGS has always graded Ikes, but very few modern coins were submitted for grading until the beginning of the Registry (2000). The oldest population report I have is from August 1988. I have one from March 1993, which is the end of the generation 3.0 slabs, but no more that show Ikes until July 2000. Total Mint State graded as of March 1993 were 10,029, with 3,266 proofs. By July 2000, the totals were 24,058 Mint State and 11,149 proofs. There are some very scarce Ikes in the pre- generation 3.1 green holders: 1972-P (25 in all grades), 1974-P (48 in all grades), 1971-P (55 in all grades), and 1978-P (57 in all grades). The 1971-D is the most common with 387 graded, the next most common is the 1976-D Type 2 at 194 graded.
Here is the Ike section from the August 1988 Population Report. As you can see, there was little interest in the clad coins (NO 1972-P's in any grade!).
Here is a sweet little upgrade- so to speak- for this set.
Finding clad-proof Ikes in these OGHs is a bit of a challenge; this is the first I've
seen that is a PR69 DCAM. That grade was not tossed around frequently with PCGS back in the
early part of the 1990s.
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That is a very nice set. Congratulations
I also have completed the set in old/new holders.
I spent 6 years searching for the right holder. I first thought it would be an easy set to complete.
Had to make the set in Collectors Showcase/ Cameo Proofs
But I needed to find the date with the correct PCGS coin number on each date.
The set ended up with 56 different coins. If you just look at the 1976 date there are 14 different designations that PCGS assigns them, PDS, Type 1 & 2, Clad, Silver, CAM, DCAM, and no designation. And there are two errors in the set.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/cameo-proofs/rjps-ike-dollar-ms-proof-cam-dcam-pcgs-coin-number-set/2281
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Nice work!
This is the 72 Type 3 in the July 2003 pop report
It was once a Pop 1 up until about 3-4 years ago
Love those OGH Ike's
Pat, You are doing what collecting is all about. You are doing what it fun for you and not what someone is trying to sell you on. Great set and a lot of work on your part.
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Upgrades added to this set.
It'll never crack the top 50 as there are many dates were the top pops or even the second and third to the top pops were simply never graded 30+ years ago and thus not available today with the OGH.
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I deleted this set from the PCGS Registry as I have it now for sale.
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