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A couple 1909 S VDB fakes to report

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 S looks quite odd, not like an authenticate S that I've seen.

    2 S is too far left

    I would feel both are counterfeits. JMO
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    1 S looks quite odd, not like an authenticate S that I've seen.
    2 S is too far left
    I would feel both are counterfeits. JMO
    Jim

    Yes, and both have the wrong reverse. ;)

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    dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:

    @jesbroken said:
    1 S looks quite odd, not like an authenticate S that I've seen.
    2 S is too far left
    I would feel both are counterfeits. JMO
    Jim

    Yes, and both have the wrong reverse. ;)

    I could use an education here. How is the reverse different? I'm sitting here looking at the Coinfacts page, and I can't tell the difference. The "S" placement is definitely suspect though.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always check the V.D.B. for diagnostics. The #2 coin has the dot after the V too low and the dot after the B too high. Always check the center line of the B as it should always be tilted not straight. The first cent was too blurry for my old eyes to tell the reverse, but the obverse was enough to know. Here is a website for diagnostics.
    https://www.pcgs.com/news/counterfeit-vs-authentic-1909-s-vdb-lincoln-cents
    Jim



    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dsessom said:
    I could use an education here. How is the reverse different? I'm sitting here looking at the Coinfacts page, and I can't tell the difference. The "S" placement is definitely suspect though.

    It has a deep N or Type 2 reverse.

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1068311/1909-cent-reverse-dies-shallow-n-deep-n/p1

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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2023 8:00AM

    Well, 1st one was ended by seller, 2nd one is a huge Bay seller...

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First one has been ended by seller, second still active, no bids. Good work on ID'ing the fakes. Cheers, RickO

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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know the seller; sent a note and the listing was ended. Even the big guys can get fooled...

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both listings are down in less than 10 hours! Great job and thanks to all that helped! :)

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