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You guys have seen alot of coins - I have a ? On MS70

Shane6596Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭

Ive been watching some videos on how coins are minted, then a question came to me.

Is there a point in the past where the dies or minting process were just not good enough to make a coin that would grade MS70?

Example, before year 18XX no MS70 coins exist. Maybe there were beautiful, untouched examples found but they had imperfections caused by imperfect dies, process that will keep them from ever being 70.

Just curious.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS70 is as struck. The issue is more about the handling. You don't find MS70 coins in circulation strikes because they bang into each other in the bin. Same with modern coins.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Shane6596 ... MS is condition.... Even coming from the mint, modern business strike coins are rarely MS70....As @jmlanzaf said, once struck, they go into bins with many others.... Proof coins are handled differently of course, with special planchets and dies. Cheers, RickO

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    DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    MS70 is as struck. The issue is more about the handling. You don't find MS70 coins in circulation strikes because they bang into each other in the bin. Same with modern coins.

    You think In the 1800s coins came off the press as a 70? I would think because of primitive minting techniques and planchet preparation the best a classic coin could grade was in the 67-68 range. I don’t know where the cutoff would be where modern techniques would be able to mint a 70 but my thinking was in line with OP that it wasn’t possible prior to mid 20th century

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    MS70 is as struck. The issue is more about the handling. You don't find MS70 coins in circulation strikes because they bang into each other in the bin. Same with modern coins.

    not with the TPG market grading

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    MS70 is as struck. The issue is more about the handling. You don't find MS70 coins in circulation strikes because they bang into each other in the bin. Same with modern coins.

    You think In the 1800s coins came off the press as a 70? I would think because of primitive minting techniques and planchet preparation the best a classic coin could grade was in the 67-68 range. I don’t know where the cutoff would be where modern techniques would be able to mint a 70 but my thinking was in line with OP that it wasn’t possible prior to mid 20th century

    Early 1800s, probably... later 1800's you have fairly modern presses and higher striking pressures. I'm not aware of any 70s but there are 69s.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang I thought this was going to be a question about the product MS70. :D

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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @DeplorableDan said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    MS70 is as struck. The issue is more about the handling. You don't find MS70 coins in circulation strikes because they bang into each other in the bin. Same with modern coins.

    You think In the 1800s coins came off the press as a 70? I would think because of primitive minting techniques and planchet preparation the best a classic coin could grade was in the 67-68 range. I don’t know where the cutoff would be where modern techniques would be able to mint a 70 but my thinking was in line with OP that it wasn’t possible prior to mid 20th century

    Early 1800s, probably... later 1800's you have fairly modern presses and higher striking pressures. I'm not aware of any 70s but there are 69s.

    You’ve seen an ms 69 from the 1800’s?

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    RexfordRexford Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2023 4:04PM

    There are no circulation strikes graded MS70 at all, modern or vintage. That grade is reserved for non-circulation issues.

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