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1942-S Walker purchase

[Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
edited February 7, 2023 2:26PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I was pleasantly surprised when I received this coin. It wasn't a very expensive purchase. When I opened the package I thought it was going to either be junk or nice.
It landed on nice. It's got amazing luster with an almost proof look in the fields.
I'm pretty happy with it and I wanted to share it.
I am open for grading opinions.
It's definitely a very original coin.
Images don't do it justice. I am trying imaging under different light conditions that's the reason for two images of the same coin.


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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What happened to graded coins, only? Or is the coin in a major grading company’s holder, but the image has been edited?

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    Hey Mark thanks for chiming in. My rule is no raw coins that cost more than $100.
    I did buy a beautiful 67 I was going to post. I just need to get it out of my safe. This one was handy so I took some images.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    4 shot 5, looks to have an above average strike for that issue.

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    I agree. The strike is terrific. A few toning marks. The devices are crisp and sharp with no noticeable dings.
    Thank you walkerguy for the compliment.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2023 3:05PM

    @Watchtower said:
    Hey Mark thanks for chiming in. My rule is no raw coins that cost more than $100.
    I did buy a beautiful 67 I was going to post. I just need to get it out of my safe. This one was handy so I took some images.

    That should keep you out of any big trouble and allow you to enjoy yourself at the same time. 👍

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Watchtower said:
    I agree. The strike is terrific. A few toning marks. The devices are crisp and sharp with no noticeable dings.
    Thank you walkerguy for the compliment.

    I think the toning spots are probably from old dip residue, or possibly pvc. You might try a little acetone, but otherwise it’s certainly nice enough as it is.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    4 shot 5, looks to have an above average strike for that issue.

    Exceptional luster, but weakly struck in the central obverse.

    I agree on 64.

    Pete

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    It's got lots of luster so whether or not it's been dipped I couldn't tell you. I do have acetone. Should I dip it in the acetone or use a pulled qtip?
    I don't want to put any hairline on it. That would suck because it looks to original.
    I have never done an acetone bath.

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited February 7, 2023 4:59PM

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    4 shot 5, looks to have an above average strike for that issue.

    Exceptional luster, but weakly struck in the central obverse.

    I agree on 64.

    Pete

    Pete
    You may be correct but the research I have done on the 42S shows that a weak strike in the central obverse can come much weaker on a 1942-S. I'm not being argumentative but I believe this is a pretty good strike for a 42S.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Watchtower said:

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    4 shot 5, looks to have an above average strike for that issue.

    Exceptional luster, but weakly struck in the central obverse.

    I agree on 64.

    Pete

    Pete
    You may be correct but the research I have done on the 42S shows that a weak strike in the central obverse can come much weaker on a 1942-S. I'm not being argumentative but I believe this is a pretty good strike for a 42S.

    I totally agree. Just pointing out the obvious. It is a pretty good strike for that date and mint in 1942.

    It's not an indictment on the coin as it is really nice.

    Pete

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Watchtower said:
    It's got lots of luster so whether or not it's been dipped I couldn't tell you. I do have acetone. Should I dip it in the acetone or use a pulled qtip?

    What problem are you trying to solve?

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited February 8, 2023 4:38AM

    Here's a 67 graded by pcgs.
    1942S are a tough coin.
    Look at the throat..
    I'm not knocking anyone's coin. I've just been studying these like crazy. Many many hours learning about them. That doesn't suggest I know more than anyone else. I want what I'm learning to pay off in the sense of what kind of collection I put together. It's strange how you can get a razor sharp strike on a Philadelphia but weak on San Francisco.
    Edit to change spelling. Darn autocorrect.

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    emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The above strike shows the loss of detail at the extended hand.
    But maybe that could change if in hand ?
    Nice booty though.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Watchtower said:

    "It's strange how you can get a razor sharp strike on a Philadelphia but weak on San Francisco."

    It's mostly about striking pressure.

    Branch mint coins from San Francisco and Denver, because of the limited amount of dies available per coin denomination, struck coins with less pressure to get more use out of them.

    They also overused dies, resulting in a worn appearance right off the press.

    Philadelphia made and shipped the dies, if they started to run out with a certain amount of coins left to strike, they had to stretch them.

    Pete

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin has awesome blast, that's for certain. I am not certain how to interpret your images as in one set it appears that the coin has milky residue on the obverse, but in another set it appears to have speckling on the reverse. My gut feel is that neither of these are correct and that the coin is simply blasty white.

    Don't attempt to "fix it" as it will not happen.

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited February 8, 2023 4:50AM

    @TomB it's my images. I think my best photos come out in direct sunlight. I'll wait until I have that opportunity and I will take another one.
    I see no issues on the reverse just a few sepckles on the obverse that must be some type of residue from a holder.
    Not that its a big deal. I love the coin no question about that. I paid $70 and was expecting to oay a whole lot more for a 42S that I liked. I have sifted through many.
    I thought about dipping it in acetone for a good long while. In hand the spots seen in the image cannot really be seen in hand so I will let it be. Most likely I will botch it up.
    I think I am going to send it in for grading and possible "conservation".
    I have not joined the PCGS Collectors Club yet. I'm going to join the platinum tier. I just need to be willing to spend the money. Once I have 8 candidates for grading I will.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd compare to the Coin facts images on this coin: https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1942-s-50c/images/6617

    Lighting is critical; a standard light that does not impart an unnatural hue is critical. Some people like Tensor or Hallogen lights.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Watchtower... That is a very nice WLH 1942S coin.... A great year indeed (notable for me personally ;) )... Based on the pictures, I would have gone for that coin at that price. An acetone bath will not harm your coin, just remove any organics. Let us know if you submit it. Cheers, RickO

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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first impression was it's an easy MS 65.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As others have said that is a good strike for a 42-S.
    I'd put it at 64, looks solid.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Watchtower said:
    @TomB it's my images. I think my best photos come out in direct sunlight. I'll wait until I have that opportunity and I will take another one.
    I see no issues on the reverse just a few sepckles on the obverse that must be some type of residue from a holder.
    Not that its a big deal. I love the coin no question about that. I paid $70 and was expecting to oay a whole lot more for a 42S that I liked. I have sifted through many.
    I thought about dipping it in acetone for a good long while. In hand the spots seen in the image cannot really be seen in hand so I will let it be. Most likely I will botch it up.
    I think I am going to send it in for grading and possible "conservation".
    I have not joined the PCGS Collectors Club yet. I'm going to join the platinum tier. I just need to be willing to spend the money. Once I have 8 candidates for grading I will.

    Acetone is not magic, and unless there is really a lot more schmutz on that coin than is visible in the images any conservation work by PCGS will likely yield nothing for you except an increased expenditure.

    As an aside, and this goes out to all newer collectors in the hobby, it appears to me that I have read myriad new hobbyists suggest that sending coins in for conservation and/or attempting at-home manipulation of surfaces is a common goal or project. This baffles me. I realize we are all different and we all buy or look at different coins, but in my several decades in this hobby-industry I have handled many millions of dollars in coins from all different eras, grade ranges and metallic compositions. However, I have used acetone on a coin once and I have sent a total of two coins in for conservation. One of the two coins sent in for conservation belonged to a client and I told him nothing needed to be done to the coin and the TPG agreed and kicked the coin back without doing anything to it, though they charged for the opinion. The other was a coin I owned and they did their work a little too well and the results were ghastly, though I made money on the coin and process.

    The above is just something I have tended to notice on the boards for a while and is not unique to your suggestion at all.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    Tom I agree with you 100%.
    It was suggested by another. It never really entered my mind until then
    I'll leave her alone. For $70 she is beautiful.

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    BikergeekBikergeek Posts: 206 ✭✭✭✭

    I have the Official Red Book's "Guide book of Mercury Dimes, Standing Liberty Quarters, and Liberty Walking Half Dollars." It says of the 1942-S: "Characteristics of Striking - Head: Usually with about 60% or more details. Left hand: Usually with 60% or more details. Eagle's left leg: Usually flat."

    I have divested my Walkers (with some sadness!) but when I was working on the set I watched the thumb for a separation since SO many SF issues have a flat smear where the wrist and hand is. The strike of your coin is above average, IMHO, based on Liberty's head, left hand, and the striping up the left leg, and based on the details still in the eagle's leg.

    Personally, I like 'em with some toning and favor originality, so I never dipped them, and would only use an acetone bath if I had a big chunk of ick to remove.

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    My first impression was it's an easy MS 65.

    Agreed.

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    I am going to go out on a limb and say it's a 66. Many may not agree but it's in my hand. With that said no reason to agree or disagree. It's just what I was looking for. I know that the 42S is a tough date. I feel as though I have filled this slot. I'm taking my time looking for my walkers. I don't care so much about high grade as I do original surfaces, good strike for the type and BU. Don't get me wrong I will look for many 66 and 67 coins. I have found a great local dealer who is selling me them at a very reasonable price slabbed. This coin was a lucky ebay purchase. I'd say my first raw success from ebay.

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice Walker.

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    Shane6596Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thats a great looking coin. I bet you're spending a fair amount of time admiring it, i know i would be.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks near gem to me.

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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought the fields were great. The sun was a little chattered, that's my only concern.

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    AdamLAdamL Posts: 165 ✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2023 9:55PM

    @Watchtower said:
    I am going to go out on a limb and say it's a 66. Many may not agree but it's in my hand. With that said no reason to agree or disagree. It's just what I was looking for. I know that the 42S is a tough date. I feel as though I have filled this slot. I'm taking my time looking for my walkers. I don't care so much about high grade as I do original surfaces, good strike for the type and BU. Don't get me wrong I will look for many 66 and 67 coins. I have found a great local dealer who is selling me them at a very reasonable price slabbed. This coin was a lucky ebay purchase. I'd say my first raw success from ebay.

    I wouldn't be surprised if your coin gets a 66. Let us know when you send them in.
    You're right. It's a very nice looking 42 S, from what I can see.
    I also don't see anything that would make me want to mess with it, acetone or otherwise.

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