Poetry contest - What does Vaultbox mean to you? (Satire thread that became a reality)

PeakRarities · January 28, 2023 1:04PM

Just Kidding! 😂, please don’t answer the question. Maybe I’ll use this thread as a placeholder for my Vaultbox results on Monday hopefully.

Poetry contest begins at the bottom of page 1

P0CKETCHANGE · January 28, 2023 1:12PM

Paging @NJCoin

[Deleted User] · January 28, 2023 1:21PM

I definitely won't answer.

U1chicago · January 28, 2023 1:34PM

Darn, I was about to submit my 1 page times new roman double spaced thesis.

Lazybones · January 28, 2023 1:51PM

HOMEWORK!?!? Awww man.

WQuarterFreddie · January 28, 2023 2:31PM

@DeplorableDan said:
Just Kidding! 😂, please don’t answer the question. Maybe I’ll use this thread as a placeholder for my Vaultbox results on Monday hopefully.

You opened that door!😯

I tagged you for the new thread I created for VaultBox owners...would appreciate you posting there if you don't mind. 😎

PeakRarities · January 28, 2023 2:32PM

@WQuarterFreddie said:

@DeplorableDan said:
Just Kidding! 😂, please don’t answer the question. Maybe I’ll use this thread as a placeholder for my Vaultbox results on Monday hopefully.

You opened that door!😯

I tagged you for the new thread I created for VaultBox owners...would appreciate you posting there if you don't mind. 😎

I didn’t see your comment in the other thread until after I created this one, but I’ll be sure to post on that one as well!

JWP · January 28, 2023 2:33PM

Can you say "One Hit Wonder". I rather play cards in Vegas. At least there You know you will probably lose, but it may be fun.

jmlanzaf · January 28, 2023 2:34PM

I applaud any attempt to reach potential new collectors in a new way.

Whether it changes anything for me depends on whether or not it's successful. It could change nothing. It could change everything. (Hello 10 point scale!)

2windy2fish · January 28, 2023 2:42PM

@DeplorableDan
Thank you for starting a new thread, i won one as well and received Friday…
My plan is to NOT open the box or the shipping box until either they are shown to be pedestrian, or i will hang on to the unopened box indefinitely. This is the first series and i would imagine the second series will have a larger run? Regardless there are only 2400 coins/holders with this label.
Looking forward to seeing what folks get tho!!

RLSnapper · January 28, 2023 3:21PM

I watched my first Vault Box opening video on YouTube. The guy opened 2 boxes. Needless to say the contents were underwhelming. Each box contained 3 ASE....that's it. Each graded 9.9 or 10. A losing proposition. I will take a Brock Purdy rookie card and spend the rest on a nice MS62 Large Cent.

jmlanzaf · January 29, 2023 7:28AM

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.- But any who should find happiness in ways unnatural to me are fools and rapscallions. And any who should apply their Liberty in a manner not of my choosing shall forfeit their happiness and, in due course, pursuant to due process, their life.

JimTyler · January 29, 2023 7:38AM

Newest gimmick in a long line of gimmicks. Can’t wait to see the next one ( sarcasm emoji here )

Catbert · January 29, 2023 7:38AM

The ONLY reason I opened this thread is because of the author (whom I like) and the ridiculous thread title (thinking, OMG, not another VB thread). Glad to see it was a joke!

ironmanl63 · January 29, 2023 7:44AM

When I saw the title I had flashbacks of when I was in high school and forgot to do my homework and had to stay up all night to get it done for first period the next day. Thanks for that! LOL.

P.S. I Think that may be a run on sentence. Boy I should have studied more. No wonder I turned out to be an Ironworker.

Namvet69 · January 29, 2023 2:23PM

Best expressed in a haiku. Maybe.

ctf_error_coins · January 29, 2023 2:41PM

@jmlanzaf said:
I applaud any attempt to reach potential new collectors in a new way.

Whether it changes anything for me depends on whether or not it's successful. It could change nothing. It could change everything. (Hello 10 point scale!)

Math

It is a 100 point scale.

jmlanzaf · January 29, 2023 3:14PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:
I applaud any attempt to reach potential new collectors in a new way.

Whether it changes anything for me depends on whether or not it's successful. It could change nothing. It could change everything. (Hello 10 point scale!)

Math

It is a 100 point scale.

Math. It's a 10 point scale with decimals. It matters. Or will you take $100.0 for your $1000 coin?

ctf_error_coins · January 29, 2023 3:21PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:
I applaud any attempt to reach potential new collectors in a new way.

Whether it changes anything for me depends on whether or not it's successful. It could change nothing. It could change everything. (Hello 10 point scale!)

Math

It is a 100 point scale.

Math. It's a 10 point scale with decimals. It matters. Or will you take $100.0 for your $1000 coin?

wow, your an academic right?

VanHalen · January 29, 2023 3:25PM

I think it is an interesting way to make money for the seller(s). It can be a fun way for buyers to purchase coins if they choose. It also has the potential to bring new collectors into the coin market.

P.S. I'd love to see a pre-1965 US coin VaultBox priced at $295.

jmlanzaf · January 29, 2023 4:45PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:
I applaud any attempt to reach potential new collectors in a new way.

Whether it changes anything for me depends on whether or not it's successful. It could change nothing. It could change everything. (Hello 10 point scale!)

Math

It is a 100 point scale.

Math. It's a 10 point scale with decimals. It matters. Or will you take $100.0 for your $1000 coin?

wow, your an academic right?

Yes. With a math degree. When it goes from 0 to 10, you call it a 10 point scale. There's millions of possible decimals between 0 and 10, but so what? And if you look at the grading scale as used, it does NOT have 100 gradations because they don't use every 0.1 gradation.

Now about that $100.0 coin...

cameonut2011 · January 29, 2023 5:08PM

This reminds me of a near identical thread I started about CAC. 🤣

PeakRarities · January 29, 2023 5:10PM

@cameonut2011 said:

This reminds me of a near identical thread I started about CAC. 🤣

I stole it from you most likely. I recall a cac thread when there were 3 other running highly controversial cac threads, it began with “short essay thread….” I’m sure that one had to be yours then 😂

spyglassdesign · January 29, 2023 5:14PM

It can be fun if you are into that kinda thing 🤷

I am curious to see what @DeplorableDan and others get, though!

jmlanzaf · January 29, 2023 5:16PM

@VanHalen said:
I think it is an interesting way to make money for the seller(s). It can be a fun way for buyers to purchase coins if they choose. It also has the potential to bring new collectors into the coin market.

P.S. I'd love to see a pre-1965 US coin VaultBox priced at $295.

Actually, I wouldn't mind a post-1965 VB in the $100-$150 range. Obviously, they sold out quickly at $600. But there's a much bigger market with a lower price point.

ctf_error_coins · January 29, 2023 5:31PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:
I applaud any attempt to reach potential new collectors in a new way.

Whether it changes anything for me depends on whether or not it's successful. It could change nothing. It could change everything. (Hello 10 point scale!)

Math

It is a 100 point scale.

Math. It's a 10 point scale with decimals. It matters. Or will you take $100.0 for your $1000 coin?

wow, your an academic right?

Yes. With a math degree. When it goes from 0 to 10, you call it a 10 point scale. There's millions of possible decimals between 0 and 10, but so what? And if you look at the grading scale as used, it does NOT have 100 gradations because they don't use every 0.1 gradation.

Now about that $100.0 coin...

There are 100 different grades in this system.

Academia is so pious.

Fraz · January 29, 2023 5:48PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

Academia is so pious.

Expertise via research—same as you. Confession by accusation.

jmlanzaf · January 29, 2023 5:51PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:
I applaud any attempt to reach potential new collectors in a new way.

Whether it changes anything for me depends on whether or not it's successful. It could change nothing. It could change everything. (Hello 10 point scale!)

Math

It is a 100 point scale.

Math. It's a 10 point scale with decimals. It matters. Or will you take $100.0 for your $1000 coin?

wow, your an academic right?

Yes. With a math degree. When it goes from 0 to 10, you call it a 10 point scale. There's millions of possible decimals between 0 and 10, but so what? And if you look at the grading scale as used, it does NOT have 100 gradations because they don't use every 0.1 gradation.

Now about that $100.0 coin...

There are 100 different grades in this system.

Academia is so pious.

Really, you're the one who jumped on me for simply referring to it as a 10 point scale.

There are not 100 different grades. There's 29.

It starts at 1.0. Right off the bat, you're down to 90 possible numbers between 1.0 and 10.0. Then they don't use any numbers except full integers and half integers until 8.

The numbers being used are:
1
1.5
2.0
2.5
3.0
3.5
4.0
4.5
5.0
5.5
6.0
6.5
7.0
7.5
8.0
8.3
8.5
8.8
9,0
9.1
9.2
9.3
9.4
9.5
9.6
9.7
9.8
9.9
10.0

So, I've got numbers from 1 to 10 and a total of 29 grades. How is that 100?

jmlanzaf · January 29, 2023 5:54PM

@Fraz said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

Academia is so pious.

Expertise via research—same as you. Confession by accusation.

https://www.ngccoin.com/specialty-services/ngcx-10-point-grading-scale/

There's only 29 grades in the system. All between 1 and 10. If calling it a 10 point scale (as NGC does) is pious, I plead guilty.

ctf_error_coins · January 29, 2023 5:55PM

I did not go and read the hype from the website.

It is a 100 point scale. Just because they chose not to use all the points on that scale, that is on them.

Now if there was only a 9.5 and 8.5, then that would be a 20 point scale. But they chose otherwise.

Fraz · January 29, 2023 5:58PM

I don’t have a candle at this wake. A generalization aggravated me to react.

jmlanzaf · January 29, 2023 6:00PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
I did not go and read the hype from the website.

It is a 100 point scale. Just because they chose not to use all the points on that scale, that is on them.

Now if there was only a 9.5 and 8.5, then that would be a 20 point scale. But they chose otherwise.

"A New Era of Coin Collecting Starts Now
NGC is the first grading authority to offer a 10-point grading scale for modern coins, with the same precision, consistency and guarantee we've been known for since our founding in 1987. Coexisting with NGC's industry-standard 70-point grading scale, NGCX makes it easier than ever for collectors of comics, trading cards, sports cards and other collectibles graded on a 10-point scale to expand their interest to coin"

If you would like to refer to it as a 100 point scale or an alligator scale or a fish scale, I don't really care. But calling me out for calling it what NGC calls it is a little pious, don't you think?

Now, about that $100.0 coin. Can I get it for $10.00 instead?

ctf_error_coins · January 29, 2023 6:06PM

Such a brilliant idea that I sent my coins in for the new new 7 point scale ...

jmlanzaf · January 29, 2023 6:13PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Such a brilliant idea that I sent my coins in for the new new 7 point scale ...

That's actually super interesting. Makes me wonder who programs their computer. There's no reason why that field should even allow a decimal point.

Fraz · January 29, 2023 6:24PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
Such a brilliant idea that I sent my coins in for the new new 7 point scale ...

You’re a dang magician. You segue smoothly into an example of metaerror.

PeakRarities · January 29, 2023 6:52PM

I regret (but not really?) to announce that I’ve accepted an offer for my box on eBay and the buyer has paid, I will be shipping it off to its final destination tomorrow when it arrives.

After seeing results of opened boxes and subsequent Vaultbox offers I’ve decided that it’s in my best interest to get out while the getting is still good. After eBay fees I will net around 900, so a 50% roi isn’t too shabby. I really did not intend to buy one to flip it, but when I considered the strong possibility that my $900 could become $300 tomorrow, I prefer not to sacrifice a guaranteed profit for the chance that I’ll “get lucky” and get a box worth $600-$700.

FlyingAl · January 29, 2023 7:03PM

@DeplorableDan said:
I regret (but not really?) to announce that I’ve accepted an offer for my box on eBay and the buyer has paid, I will be shipping it off to its final destination tomorrow when it arrives.

After seeing results of opened boxes and subsequent Vaultbox offers I’ve decided that it’s in my best interest to get out while the getting is still good. After eBay fees I will net around 900, so a 50% roi isn’t too shabby. I really did not intend to buy one to flip it, but when I considered the strong possibility that my $900 could become $300 tomorrow, I prefer not to sacrifice a guaranteed profit for the chance that I’ll “get lucky” and get a box worth $600-$700.

I think it's funny that over the many pages of VaultBox threads, no one really seemed to consider this third option. It appears to be a relatively safe gamble to try and flip the boxes, with more than a few selling for over $1000 on Ebay. So much arguing over this where there appears to be a simple, and relatively smart, way out.

UpGrayedd · January 29, 2023 7:27PM

@Namvet69 said:
Best expressed in a haiku. Maybe.

I bought a VaultBox
It was a disappointment
Not for me but others

Namvet69 · January 30, 2023 3:23AM

Touche' @UpGrayedd

Box red box dead box
Gift grift drift quiet riot
Your fate awaits you

WQuarterFreddie · January 30, 2023 3:27AM

@Namvet69 said:
Touche' @UpGrayedd

Box red box dead box
Gift grift drift quiet riot
Your fate awaits you

Let's start a riot! A riot! Let's start a riot! Great song by a great band🤣😂

jmlanzaf · January 30, 2023 4:53AM

VaultBox something new
Imprisoned by familiar
They reject all change

P0CKETCHANGE · January 30, 2023 5:10AM

Pitchforks and torches
Made him sell it on eBay
The contents unknown

ricko · January 30, 2023 5:12AM

Regarding the original question - two words... Stay Away.... Cheers, RickO

Fraz · January 30, 2023 5:13AM

Gang, does he have to show us how to count syllables, too?

@jmlanzaf said:

VaultBox something new
Imprisoned by familiar
They reject all change

Ugh, Sylvia Plathish, though.

Onastone · January 30, 2023 5:18AM

Inspired by Seuss:

Knox, Fox, Stocks, Box
Fox buys stocks.
Knox buys box.
Fox stocks climb some.
Knox keeps his box unopened maintaining mystery values some.

jmlanzaf · January 30, 2023 5:32AM

@Fraz said:
Gang, does he have to show us how to count syllables, too?

@jmlanzaf said:

VaultBox something new
Imprisoned by familiar
They reject all change

Ugh, Sylvia Plathish, though.

5-7-5

Fraz · January 30, 2023 5:40AM

Math. It's a 10 point scale with decimals. It matters. Or will you take $100.0 for your $1000 coin?

@jmlanzaf —This wrote itself last night

Math
It’s a ten point scale
With decimals it matters
Take a hundred?

Maybe a day of haiku, will chill us, and make us think before we write.

PeakRarities · January 30, 2023 5:41AM

@P0CKETCHANGE said:
Pitchforks and torches
Made him sell it on eBay
The contents unknown

I see your Haiku, and I raise you one Limerick

They sold us this box, as a mystery
Said “Find a red core” and claim victory
But the unboxings were lame
Not a very fun game
This might have the worst odds in history

Fraz · January 30, 2023 5:57AM

@P0CKETCHANGE said:
Pitchforks and torches
Made him sell it on eBay
The contents unknown

I see your Haiku, and I raise you one Limerick

@DeplorableDan said:

They sold us this box, as a mystery
Said “Find a red core” and claim victory
But the unboxings were lame
Not a very fun game
This might have the worst odds in history

Dang good!

There once was a man from Nantucket
Bought up some coins in a bucket
He said with a grin
As he heard the spin
If they don’t like it they can

jmlanzaf · January 30, 2023 6:05AM

@Fraz said:
Gang, does he have to show us how to count syllables, too?

@jmlanzaf said:

VaultBox something new
Imprisoned by familiar
They reject all change

Ugh, Sylvia Plathish, though.

5-7-5> @Fraz said:

Math. It's a 10 point scale with decimals. It matters. Or will you take $100.0 for your $1000 coin?

@jmlanzaf —This wrote itself last night

Math
It’s a ten point scale
With decimals it matters
Take a hundred?

Maybe a day of haiku, will chill us, and make us think before we write.

LOL.

If I didn't have actual work to do, I'd point out to EOC that since the + system came into play, according to his rules, the Sheldon scale is now a 700 point scale!!!

All in favor of NGCX 10.00?

Fraz · January 30, 2023 6:19AM

I like both you guys. It’s like seeing mommy and daddy bicker.

Poetry contest - What does Vaultbox mean to you? (Satire thread that became a reality)

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