Another interesting observation

VarietyFan

As we all know GC is a huge advertiser with PCGS. So I can't help but expect they have a decent working relationship.

Yet I notice that PCGS doesn't appear to recognize any current or recent GC auctions in their price guide auction results, which seems a bit odd.

Yet the PCGS price guide values change according to GC results.

Does anyone "know" (not assume, guess or opine) why this is?

Thanks.

PeakRarities

From what I've gathered, I understand that GC's sale records are not "public", contrary to the records of the other major auction houses. Note that in order to see sale prices on GC, you have to "log in" first whereas heritage or stacks records can be viewed without logging in. Perhaps we can obtain some insight straight from the source, as I too would love to see GC prices included in PCGS records, it would save me an extra step every time I price a coin. @ianrussell

lermish

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13331434

From the horse's mouth.

PeakRarities

Disregard my tag, Ian. Sorry! I must have missed that thread.

MasonG

@DeplorableDan said:
Note that in order to see sale prices on GC, you have to "log in" first whereas heritage or stacks records can be viewed without logging in.

I just took a look at Heritage and am unable to see prices unless I log in.

FWIW...

PeakRarities

@MasonG said:

@DeplorableDan said:
Note that in order to see sale prices on GC, you have to "log in" first whereas heritage or stacks records can be viewed without logging in.

I just took a look at Heritage and am unable to see prices unless I log in.

FWIW...

Ahh ok, my mistake. I assumed I wasn't signed in to heritage and I was able to see the sale price of the 1870-s, but i guess even if you're not signed in the site cookies retain your info.

MasonG

@DeplorableDan said:

@MasonG said:

@DeplorableDan said:
Note that in order to see sale prices on GC, you have to "log in" first whereas heritage or stacks records can be viewed without logging in.

I just took a look at Heritage and am unable to see prices unless I log in.

FWIW...

Ahh ok, my mistake. I assumed I wasn't signed in to heritage and I was able to see the sale price of the 1870-s, but i guess even if you're not signed in the site cookies retain your info.

Must be a cookies thing, the website recognizes me but I'm not signed in...

winesteven

Just to add clarity for those who did not click on the hotlink of @ianrussell ’s comments posted above by @lermish , my recollection is Ian made a business decision to not share most of GC’s auction results in a feed to PCGS CoinFacts (unlike Heritage, Stacks, Legend, and DLRC who do provide the feed of their auction results to PCGS Coin Facts). Ian wants people to go to the GC site to access that FREE data.

I understand that. By going to the GC site, when looking at their Coin Auction Archive, you will then also see similar current coins listed for current upcoming auctions.

As a result, EVERY time I do pricing research, I access the PCGS Auction Prices Realized and the GC Coin Auction Archive, and I’m ok with that!

Steve

lilolme

It is just a good thing that most all the other auction companies are not like GC. If they were, then you would need to go to each individual auction companies website to look up auction records independently. Coinfacts and other similar sites would not have any auction records, just price lists, population and current auction or dealer listings. So I thank the auction companies that do provide their auction data so that we can have information available to help collectors and dealers alike determine pricing and enjoy looking up information more readily at hand.

Also I generally (about 90+% of the time) only use the information available at coinfacts / auction archives. I do also click on the available auction links and go to those auction sites. Many times I am just searching results for information and not for 'buying'. Again thanks for sharing this information.