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Dansco 7070 - What It Has and Has Not

lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭✭✭

So I am not a Dansco 7070 collector but with the various post about the Dansco 7070 I noticed that I was not sure of the contents of it. So I went to the pcgs registry set for their Dansco 7070 composition. I am assuming this is the same as the Dansco 7070 and it seems to compare with this website general contents listing.

https://www.danscoalbumstore.com/us-type-major-coins-from-1800-dansco-album-7070-p-1994.html

Here is the link to the pcgs Dansco 7070 registry set composition. I have captured the composition at the bottom. Also is the pcgs introduction-description for this registry set with a little content information (but I do see capped bust in composition listing) and note the 4 versus 1 commemoratives.

https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/design-type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/composition/6136

The website above labels it as 'from 1800' but some are missing. I did notice that not included in the composition are Flowing hair series, Draped bust silver, early gold, early copper, $3 and $4 (any others?). Also some of the 'major' varieties are included and others not. It is interesting that a VDB Lincoln cent is included as this is a small change in appearance but I suspect popularity drove this one to be included. There are some others with a more visually noticeable change that are not included.

I am sure this is all well known to Dansco 7070 collectors but if you are like me and not a Dansco 7070 type, then this might help understand what it is/contains.

Not sure what was used by the manufacturer to determine what to include or not include but suspect it is a combination of the significance of the variety-change and as noted above popularity of (and pcgs introduction implies cost).
Any ideas? Other thoughts about contents or missing contents? Does the listing look correct for the album also?
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PCGS Dansco registry set introduction:
Dansco Corporation, located in Southern California, has been producing high quality coin albums for collectors since 1937. One of their most popular albums is the 7070 type set. This album is designed for mid-level collectors. It does not require early Bust and Capped issues and eliminates some of the rare gold. Dansco has not updated the album for some time, so some issues are missing such as the Presidential dollars, for example. If the album is updated to require some of the more recent issues, this set will be updated. To mirror the Dansco album we have endeavored to use the same terminology and have ordered the coins as they appear in the original album. The album does require four random classic commemorative half dollars, however, this Registry composite requires only one example due to software restrictions. This set includes ten gold coins, available on an optional additional page,
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PCGS Dansco registry set composition:
Draped Bust Half Cent (1800-08)
Classic Head Half Cent (1809-35)
Coronet Half Cent (1849-57)
Draped Bust Large Cent (1796-1807)
Classic Head Cent (1808-14)
Coronet Large Cent (1816-39)
Coronet Braided Hair Cent (1840-57)
Flying Eagle Cent (1857-58)
Indian Head Cent Laurel Wreath (1859) 1859
Indian Head Cent Copper-Nickel Oak Wreath (1860-64)
Indian Head Cent Bronze Oak Wreath (1864-1909)
Lincoln Head Cent VDB (1909)
Lincoln Head Cent Bronze Wheat Heads (1909-58)
Lincoln Head Cent Steel (1943)
Lincoln Head Cent Memorial (1959-Date)
2C Piece Bronze (1864-72)
3C Piece Silver (1851-73)
3C Piece Nickel (1865-89)
Capped Bust Half Dime (1829-37)
Liberty Seated Half Dime Drapery (1837-59)
Liberty Seated Half Dime Arrows (1853-55)
Liberty Seated Half Dime Legend (1860-73)
Shield Nickel Rays (1866-67)
Shield Nickel No Rays (1867-83)
Liberty Head Nickel No Cents (1883)
Liberty Head Nickel Cents (1883-1912)
Buffalo Nickel Variety I (1913)
Buffalo Nickel Variety II (1913-1938)
Jefferson Nickel (1938-Date)
Jefferson Nickel 35% Silver (1942-45)
Capped Bust Dime Variety II (1828-37)
Liberty Seated Dime Stars (1838-60)
Liberty Seated Dime Arrows (1853-55)
Liberty Seated Dime Legend (1860-91)
Liberty Head Dime (1892-1916)
Mercury Dime (1916-45)
Roosevelt Dime Silver (1946-64)
Roosevelt Dime Clad (1965-Date)
Liberty Seated 20C Piece (1875-78)
Capped Bust Quarter (1831-38)
Liberty Seated Quarter No Motto (1838-65)
Liberty Seated Quarter Arrows (1853-55)
Liberty Seated Quarter Motto (1866-91)
Liberty Head Quarter (1892-1916)
Standing Liberty Quarter Variety I (1916-17)
Standing Liberty Quarter Variety II (1917-30)
Washington Quarter Silver (1932-64)
Washington Quarter Clad (1965-Date)
Capped Bust Half Dollar Lettered Edge (1807-36)
Capped Bust Half Dollar Reeded Edge (1836-39)
Liberty Seated Half Dollar No Motto (1839-65)
Liberty Seated Half Dollar Arrows (1853-55)
Liberty Seated Half Dollar Motto (1866-91)
Liberty Head Half Dollar (1892-1915)
Walking Liberty Half Dollar (1916-47)
Franklin Half Dollar (1948-63)
Kennedy Half Dollar Silver (1964)
Kennedy Half Dollar Clad (1965-Date)
Commemorative Half Dollar (1892-1954) (PCGS Intro notes 4 required in Dansco album)
Liberty Seated Dollar No Motto (1840-65)
Liberty Seated Dollar Motto (1866-73)
Trade Dollar (1873-83)
Morgan Dollar (1878-1921)
Peace Dollar (1921-35)
Eisenhower Dollar (1971-78)
Gold Dollar, Type I (1849-54)
Gold Dollar, Type III (1856-89)
Liberty Head Quarter Eagle (1840-1907)
Indian Quarter Eagle (1908-29)
Liberty Head Half Eagle (1839-1908)
Indian Head Half Eagle (1908-29)
Liberty Head Eagle (1838-1907)
Indian Head Eagle (1908-33)
Liberty Head Double Eagle (1850-1907)
St. Gaudens Double Eagle (1907-1932)
Bicentennial Washington Quarter (1976)
Bicentennial Kennedy Half Dollar (1976)
Bicentennial Eisenhower Dollar (1976)
Susan B. Anthony Dollar (1979-99)
Sacagawea Dollar (2000-Date)
50 State Commemorative Quarter (1999-2008)
Commemorative (1983-Date)
Silver American Eagle (1986-Date)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YNufnS_kf4 - Mama I'm coming home ...................................................................................................................................................................... RLJ 1958 - 2023

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    P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2023 7:13PM

    I abandoned my 7070 because there are too many Seated Liberty types required—rays, arrows, mottos, stars, drapery, legends, etc. I’d rather have one nice coin for each Seated denomination, not split my budget across three or four coins.

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

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    @BryceM said:
    Yeah, there are some notable types that are excluded.

    Probably, the idea was to keep it to material that the average collector could realistically assemble. Empty holes drive people crazy.

    Makes me think of those old Whitman folders with the "RARE" tabs.

    Young Numismatist

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @P0CKETCHANGE said:
    I abandoned my 7070 because there are too many Seated Liberty types required—rays, arrows, mottos, drapery, legends, etc. I’d rather have one nice coin for each Seated denomination, not split my budget across three or four coins.

    I suppose the Seated series was around for long enough that some varieties were inevitable, but really, the huge number of relatively minor design changes are a bit much. Equally large changes can be found in other series that scarcely merit a mention.

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    vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2023 5:44PM

    As Bryce has noted, Dansco 7070 was meant for the average collecter where available coinage can be collected in the hobby since it is not easy to lay hands on a $3 gold leave alone a Stella and so on.

    The Dansco website notes the following as content.

    Half Cents - Draped Bust, Classic Head, Coronet
    Large Cents - Draped Bust, Classic Head, Coronet, Coronet w/braided hair
    Small Cents - Flying eagle, Indian head (3), Lincoln vdb, wheat, steel, memorial, 2c piece 3c piece silver and nickel
    Half Dimes - Capped Bust, Liberty Seated (3)
    Nickels - Shield (2) Liberty (2) Buffalo(2), Jefferson, Jefferson Silver
    Dimes - Capped Bust, Liberty (4), Mercury, Roosevelt (2)
    20c Piece - Liberty Seated
    Quarters - Capped Bust, Liberty Seated (3), Liberty Head, Liberty Standing (2), Washington (2)
    Half Dollars - Capped Bust (2), Liberty Seated (3), Liberty Head, Liberty Walking, Franklin, Kennedy (2)
    Commemorative Half Dollars - Blanks (4) - Liberty Seated (2), Trade, Morgan, Peace, Eisenhower
    Bicentennial - Quarter, Half, Dollar
    Modern US Coinage - SBA, SAC, Statehood Quarter, Commemorative $1, Silver American Eagle.

    https://www.danscoalbumstore.com/dansco-albums-c-63.html/us-type-major-coins-from-1800-dansco-album-7070-p-1994.html

    I had a lot of fun putting it together along with the 10 coin gold page that is sold separately, albeit started off in my usual lowball way and then slowly trying to upgrade.

    Cheers.






    And the optional gold page

    ** Edited to add images

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    The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the 7070. It set the standard for type collecting and doesn't push the collector to unreasonable limits.

    Custom album maker and numismatic photographer, see my portfolio here: (http://www.donahuenumismatics.com/).

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @vulcanize Thanks for the page photos. They appear to agree with the pcgs composition list (I did not check each one).

    Again I was just getting an understanding of what it contained because with some post I kind of wondered what about 'this or that'. This kind of brings the understanding together at least somewhat.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YNufnS_kf4 - Mama I'm coming home ...................................................................................................................................................................... RLJ 1958 - 2023

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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 7070 is a timeless classic album and perfect in my eyes.
    There are an infinite number of ways to fill it as you see fit.
    AG to MS, holed, Proofs, fakes, first year or last year of issue.
    It encourages you to learn a little something about every series too.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

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    vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lilolme said:
    @vulcanize Thanks for the page photos. They appear to agree with the pcgs composition list (I did not check each one).

    Again I was just getting an understanding of what it contained because with some post I kind of wondered what about 'this or that'. This kind of brings the understanding together at least somewhat.

    You are very welcome.
    Posted the pictures of the pages as an after thought to help those who may have never seen the 7070 in person and what all are the 76 coins that go into it (plus ten more to make it 86 if one adds on a gold page).
    And yeah, it sure does get pretty heavy once the album weighing 1,25 pounds (without occupants) is fully filled up. :wink:
    The flexibility (meaning it can be filled in with any condition and/or date range unless slot is specific like the 1913 Buffalo variety I and the 1916-17 Type 1 SLQ etc. where a genuine 1916 would be extremely hard to source in the raw leave alone cracking it out of a slab to fill the hole so it HAS to be a 1917 type scenario) of this type set is fantastic.
    Ditto with the gold page because there would be more collectors than coins if all the mint offerings had to be put together as a set.
    The Dansco 7070 type set for me has been a wonderful therapeutic experience in the interim, to help stave off the frustration at not being able to complete a particular set and I sure learnt quite a bit about older coinage while cobbling it together. :smiley:

    Cheers.

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,007 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 7070 is a classic album.
    It makes no distinction between 40% silver and copper-nickel clad Kennedy half dollars.
    I think perhaps there should have been a hole for each.

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    NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 888 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love my "virtual" 7070. I have been going after a graded type set since I started collecting, and based my goals on the 7070. Having a virtual set, there are no holes, so I can expand any way I want. I can honestly say that this set has been a great teacher of Numismatics.

    Lately, I am wonderfully distracted with Half Cents, but I have the 7070 going in the background.

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @BryceM said:
    Yeah, there are some notable types that are excluded.

    Probably, the idea was to keep it to material that the average collector could realistically assemble. Empty holes drive people crazy.

    Makes me think of those old Whitman folders with the "RARE" tabs.

    You should see what is required to fill one of the old Whitman Bookshelf type albums, I think just on the first page there were eight different types of pre-1800 large cents.

    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If only they would start shipping the $#@^! things...


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was attracted to Type Collecting early on in my Numismatic venture. The first type album I ever bought was the Whitman Small Denomination Series (Half Cents through Quarters). I'm sure it's been discontinued by now but it had slots for: 1793 Half Cent (Facing Left), 1793 Chain Cent, Flowing Hair Half-Dimes and Dimes, 1796 Small Eagle Quarter... you get the picture. I realized by the time I was 12 that there weren't nearly enough lawns to mow in my lifetime to cover the cost of a set so I abandoned the project. Fast forward 20 years or so, and I got back into coin collecting to discover the Dansco 7070. As others have already noted, there are certainly gaps in "Major Type Coins" and (I agree) there are far too many Seated Liberty coins in the set but it is much more approachable than earlier versions of Type Sets. I've addressed the gaps in a basic 7070 (no gold page) by supplementing it with a "Box of 20". This is where I keep coins I believe are representative of "major type" not included in my album... such as my 1794 Liberty Cap Large Cent and gold. I also use this approach because I'm a bit more reluctant to crack Gold and other coins that have been heavily counterfeited, so I just keep them in the supplemental Box of 20. I also like the authentication that certification gives for these coins too...

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
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    Klif50Klif50 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭✭

    @alpha33 said:

    @lilolme said:

    PCGS Dansco registry set composition:
    Draped Bust Half Cent (1800-08)
    Classic Head Half Cent (1809-35)
    Coronet Half Cent (1849-57)
    Draped Bust Large Cent (1796-1807)
    Classic Head Cent (1808-14)
    Coronet Large Cent (1816-39)
    Coronet Braided Hair Cent (1840-57)
    Flying Eagle Cent (1857-58)
    Indian Head Cent Laurel Wreath (1859) 1859
    Indian Head Cent Copper-Nickel Oak Wreath (1860-64)
    Indian Head Cent Bronze Oak Wreath (1864-1909)
    Lincoln Head Cent VDB (1909)
    Lincoln Head Cent Bronze Wheat Heads (1909-58)
    Lincoln Head Cent Steel (1943)
    Lincoln Head Cent Memorial (1959-Date)
    2C Piece Bronze (1864-72)
    3C Piece Silver (1851-73)
    3C Piece Nickel (1865-89)
    Capped Bust Half Dime (1829-37)
    Liberty Seated Half Dime Drapery (1837-59)
    Liberty Seated Half Dime Arrows (1853-55)
    Liberty Seated Half Dime Legend (1860-73)
    Shield Nickel Rays (1866-67)
    Shield Nickel No Rays (1867-83)
    Liberty Head Nickel No Cents (1883)
    Liberty Head Nickel Cents (1883-1912)
    Buffalo Nickel Variety I (1913)
    Buffalo Nickel Variety II (1913-1938)
    Jefferson Nickel (1938-Date)
    Jefferson Nickel 35% Silver (1942-45)
    Capped Bust Dime Variety II (1828-37)
    Liberty Seated Dime Stars (1838-60)
    Liberty Seated Dime Arrows (1853-55)
    Liberty Seated Dime Legend (1860-91)
    Liberty Head Dime (1892-1916)
    Mercury Dime (1916-45)
    Roosevelt Dime Silver (1946-64)
    Roosevelt Dime Clad (1965-Date)
    Liberty Seated 20C Piece (1875-78)
    Capped Bust Quarter (1831-38)
    Liberty Seated Quarter No Motto (1838-65)
    Liberty Seated Quarter Arrows (1853-55)
    Liberty Seated Quarter Motto (1866-91)
    Liberty Head Quarter (1892-1916)
    Standing Liberty Quarter Variety I (1916-17)
    Standing Liberty Quarter Variety II (1917-30)
    Washington Quarter Silver (1932-64)
    Washington Quarter Clad (1965-Date)
    Capped Bust Half Dollar Lettered Edge (1807-36)
    Capped Bust Half Dollar Reeded Edge (1836-39)
    Liberty Seated Half Dollar No Motto (1839-65)
    Liberty Seated Half Dollar Arrows (1853-55)
    Liberty Seated Half Dollar Motto (1866-91)
    Liberty Head Half Dollar (1892-1915)
    Walking Liberty Half Dollar (1916-47)
    Franklin Half Dollar (1948-63)
    Kennedy Half Dollar Silver (1964)
    Kennedy Half Dollar Clad (1965-Date)
    Commemorative Half Dollar (1892-1954) (PCGS Intro notes 4 required in Dansco album)
    Liberty Seated Dollar No Motto (1840-65)
    Liberty Seated Dollar Motto (1866-73)
    Trade Dollar (1873-83)
    Morgan Dollar (1878-1921)
    Peace Dollar (1921-35)
    Eisenhower Dollar (1971-78)
    Gold Dollar, Type I (1849-54)
    Gold Dollar, Type III (1856-89)
    Liberty Head Quarter Eagle (1840-1907)
    Indian Quarter Eagle (1908-29)
    Liberty Head Half Eagle (1839-1908)
    Indian Head Half Eagle (1908-29)
    Liberty Head Eagle (1838-1907)
    Indian Head Eagle (1908-33)
    Liberty Head Double Eagle (1850-1907)
    St. Gaudens Double Eagle (1907-1932)
    Bicentennial Washington Quarter (1976)
    Bicentennial Kennedy Half Dollar (1976)
    Bicentennial Eisenhower Dollar (1976)
    Susan B. Anthony Dollar (1979-99)
    Sacagawea Dollar (2000-Date)
    50 State Commemorative Quarter (1999-2008)
    Commemorative (1983-Date)
    Silver American Eagle (1986-Date)

    To see this list of coins for the 7070 (83 coins) is daunting at the very least. I gave up the search for the 7070 gold page 6 or 8 weeks ago and switched over to the intercept shield type album with a gold page (100 holes) for about 2/3rds less than the dansco gold page by itself. The Intercept album came with an extra commemorative page (19 holes), for no apparent reason. So of course I had to fill it. 119 holes in total. Glad the extra page wasn't the "gold page".

    I was looking at the Intercept Shield type set album but every ad that I see says the turban head large cent hole was cut too small so unless you want to butcher that page or not collect that coin then it would probably be a bad deal. If they offered a replacement page then that might be different.

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    kirkminkkirkmink Posts: 172 ✭✭✭✭

    I was looking at the Intercept Shield type set album but every ad that I see says the turban head large cent hole was cut too small so unless you want to butcher that page or not collect that coin then it would probably be a bad deal. If they offered a replacement page then that might be different.

    It is indeed too small, but can be rectified with a little sandpaper and patience.

    "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?"- Calvin and Hobbes

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 23,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:
    The 7070 is a classic album.
    It makes no distinction between 40% silver and copper-nickel clad Kennedy half dollars.
    I think perhaps there should have been a hole for each.

    Where does it stop?
    The bicentennials only have a single spot for each coin although the mint produced clad and 40% silver versions.

    My only complaint is the third large cent hole is a bit too large, and the half dimes slip between the plastic and the pages.

    peacockcoins

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @sparky64 said:
    The 7070 is a timeless classic album and perfect in my eyes.
    There are an infinite number of ways to fill it as you see fit.
    AG to MS, holed, Proofs, fakes, first year or last year of issue.
    It encourages you to learn a little something about every series too.

    Agreed. Some of us even create custom pages for the back of the album with the modern types.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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    seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭✭

    I know some people have complained that there are too many seated coin varieties, (I have never seen a 7070 Dansco in person), but i am surprised there is no spot for the no stars variety from 1837-1838. I not only consider it the most attractive version of the seated coins, but it is also the actual start dates of the half dime and dime.

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    santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The only modern bullion coin on the list is the silver eagle. That’s quite a few issues that didn’t make the cut, but those likely don’t qualify as “commonly collected.”

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