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Will it cross? 1955 1C DDO inside

RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭
edited January 16, 2023 10:41AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hey all, hope everyone is having a great start to the new year!

I purchased this Lincoln over the summer after wanting one for many years and thought the color was just fantastic; however, I think it'd look much better in a PCGS holder and it may even bring out the color a bit more.

It's currently in an NGC MS63BN holder.

Edited to add - will it likely cross at the same grade?


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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on your pics, it looks properly graded. Why do you want to cross it?

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First reaction to the top picture is AU58, so I don’t think it will cross at the same grade

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    RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭

    @Chevyrose said:
    It will cross I’m sure

    Everything is better in a pcgs holder

    Whoops, I meant to say at the same grade.

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    streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a circ coin. Be careful.

    Have a nice day
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    go for it

    Frank

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    ChevyroseChevyrose Posts: 225 ✭✭✭

    I think it will cross and stay in ms.

    Look at some of the 55/55 plate coins on CoinFacts

    Some 55/55 are beat up in pcgs ms

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can you please explain how color can come out more in a PCGS holder?

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2023 12:11PM

    @FlyingAl said:
    Can you please explain how color can come out more in a PCGS holder?

    No obtrusive, white prongs? More focus placed on the coin? My thoughts at least.

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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it has Lucky Strike cellophane toning, doesn't look circulated at all to me, I see no reason to think it wouldn't cross at the same grade.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess would be that it would cross at same grade.
    Jim


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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RyGuy said:

    @FlyingAl said:
    Can you please explain how color can come out more in a PCGS holder?

    No obtrusive, white prongs? More focus placed on the coin? My thoughts at least.

    I don't think a change of plastic will change the color of the coin. Perhaps better lighting?

    NGC and PCGS 1955 MS63BN DDO cents are trading at nearly even prices. I'd suggest selling and buying a PCGS coin if that's what you want.

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RyGuy said:

    @FlyingAl said:
    Can you please explain how color can come out more in a PCGS holder?

    No obtrusive, white prongs? More focus placed on the coin? My thoughts at least.

    While it is your decision changing the plastic will not change the color of the coin. The second photo looks like an Angel Dee's photo, if you bought from there I would suggest you ask Andy his thoughts on it crossing.

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin - I think it will cross and will look much better in a PCGS holder. Why NGC still does the hideous white prongs is very perplexing.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Forgot to say, second photo is great.
    Jim


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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Chevyrose said:
    It will cross I’m sure

    Everything is better in a pcgs holder

    Made me chuckle...

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    Forgot to say, second photo is great.
    Jim

    It might be, but doesn’t that depend largely upon what the coin really looks like?

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @burfle23 said:

    @Chevyrose said:
    It will cross I’m sure

    Everything is better in a pcgs holder

    Made me chuckle...

    This and the three different grades got me too.

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Forgot to say, second photo is great.
    Jim

    It might be, but doesn’t that depend largely upon what the coin really looks like?

    One could say that about any coin photograph we see here unless previously inhand. Posting here would be quite less without the GTG from photographs. All have opinions, just some better than others.
    Jim


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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:

    @MFeld said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Forgot to say, second photo is great.
    Jim

    It might be, but doesn’t that depend largely upon what the coin really looks like?

    One could say that about any coin photograph we see here unless previously inhand. Posting here would be quite less without the GTG from photographs. All have opinions, just some better than others.
    Jim

    That’s true. But in this case, two different sets of photos were posted and you complimented the second set. Presumably, that was because they make the coin look more attractive to you. But I wonder which set is better, as in more accurate?

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No question to me, the 2nd set of photographs are of a coin I would like to have and the 1st set are not of a coin I would rather have. Not being a photographic star, I could only say that until the coin was held inhand, we could not know which photo represented the look inhand with eyes only. I have bought quite a few coins in my life whose photos were not representative of coin inhand. When local coin shows became basically extinct and the internet took over the eye became less involved and most coin purchases became a veritable risk and then grading occurred and websites such as ebay et al. presented a cushion to either poor photography or doctored photography by offering a better idea of the grade and even of guarantee as to your acceptance of the coin. Then photos became so much better with the advent of the affordable dslr cameras our risk was again reduced. Now most sales are guaranteed to some extent with ebay, paypal and even most credit cards.
    Now as to the two sets of photos, if presented together it would cause pause to be given and the credibility of the seller would moreso come into play for me. But if the, supposed, reputable seller said the 2nd set was how the coin looked inhand, I might take a risk as long as a guaranteed return would be available. But for me and a coin of this calibur, it would be a nogo without entombment in plastic. Thank you.
    Jim


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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the pictures, my impression is that it will likely cross at grade. However, based on the coin and value, I would shop around to find one already in PCGS plastic, and see if I could sell the first and get the PCGS at virtually little to no extra cost (shipping, grading, insurance, time).
    Cheers, RickO

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    RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭

    The first pic was taken by a friend with his iPhone, as I lack any skill whatsoever. The second pic was taken from the seller's site, but I purchased after viewing in-person at a show.

    I don't think either pic does the coin justice in showing its actual colors, as there are many. I also failed to mention the other part of me wanting it in PCGS plastic was to gain a TrueView as well.

    The NGC stock photos do nothing for the coin either.

    I appreciate all of the feedback.


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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm on my phone and not seeing this on my monitor, but they look like completely different coins to me. If the coin looks like the second images, then maybe it would cross. I'm not seeing anything glaring that would prevent it... but if coin- in- hand is as dark as the first images I'd be a bit more doubtful.

    IDK... if it looks like the second image, I'd keep it encapsulated as is and enjoy. This is one issue I'd only consider buying if certified.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RyGuy said:

    I also failed to mention the other part of me wanting it in PCGS plastic was to gain a TrueView as well.

    There are any number of great photographers that can accurately capture the look and color of your coin without the risks associated with taking the coin out of the holder. My favorite is Mark Goodman, but @messydesk here on the forum is excellent and has shot coins for other forum members at some of the major shows. Two on my toned Lincolns that Mark shot for me, these were obviously shot thru the plastic.

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    ms71ms71 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just specify MS63BN as the minimum acceptable grade when you submit.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm seeing the updated images... it looks good to me, and if it's a coin you're going to keep, I can completely understand getting the Trueviews. I did for my $2.5 Indian and it's definitely the "glamour shot". Best of luck and let us know how it goes if you do... Best, Leo

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin looks a little glassy, lacking life. Would not want to break it out or cross at any grade, otherwise PCGS could call it an MS62.

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