“Unusual 7% Double Clip”
1madman
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Why is this described as an unusual clip by PCGS, and has anyone ever seen another slab use that term before? The clip on the top looks like 2 separate curved clips.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/374458335783?hash=item572f74c227:g:SLQAAOSwZERjwXkM
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Two straight clips is not the norm for double clips.
Highly unusual that they put that in the description.
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Can we suggest our own adjectives on the label now, and does it cost extra?
From the HA auction description... "1977-D 50C Half--Unusual 7% Double Clip--MS62 PCGS. Unusual indeed. One clip is ragged, the other is not quite curved but also not really ragged. An interesting piece. Light rose-gray patina."
My question is...how do you get two ragged clips, much less two different style ragged clips, from something designed to strike with a distinct curve to it?
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The clip by the date is curved, the one at 10:00 I would describe as ragged. Ordinarily I would expect it to be described as such on the holder, maybe with the total percentage of weight loss as well, something like "7% curved / ragged clip". The adjective "unusual" is more of a marketing description than a technical one, I am surprised to see it used in that context.
I am not going to hijack the thread but I recently picked up a 1978 Lincoln with similar clips on opposing edges, I assumed from the seller's pics that one side was closely overlapping curved clips but in the hand I can't tell if it's even a genuine error. Maybe I'll give it its own thread if I can get decent pics.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
this is a rather old holder, so that probably lends a little bit to why the wording.
putting unusual on holders these days would be almost senseless considering just how much unique and "unusual" errors are floating around out there.
and for those of us not STEEPED in the error market, we probably don't even know the half of it if what has been posted in the past few years is any indication.
Would they have honored a submitters request for that phrase?
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Paging @FredWeinberg to the thread, as it's likely he was the person who reviewed this in hand and gave the description to PCGS for the holder.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
PCGS has never been consistent with the labeling of clips. I always wondered why they didn’t come up with a standard format and just stick with it. It would be more professional, IMO. Even with multi-errors and label space limitations, it should be more consistent than it has been.
Cool clips, though!
Guilty as charged - although that’s a very early ( looks like it’s 20-23 years ago)error coin holder, I assume I was lazy and possibly pushing for time and did not adequately describe the coin in the correct terms – I’m sure the coin could be re-holders with the proper Termanology today.
Fred, what did you think was unusual about the clips (then or even now)? Is it because there are possibly 2 straight clips on a single planchet? Or that the clips are on exact opposite sides of the planchet?
Agreed that it is unusual, straight clips and opposing sides... looks like a piece of the left over planchet material was fed into the press... Cheers, RickO