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1965 Quarter - DDO or Machine Doubling?

Hi All,
This is my first go at trying to sort out the difference between a legit DDO and machine doubling. I'm seeing conflicting information online and I've been looking at some of the ID posts in this forum, so I thought I would ask a group of people way smarter than me.

The coin is rather worn, so the best examples of the doubling are in the IGWT and the date. Washington also has a bit of a double profile around the chin area. "Liberty" is fairly worn, so I can't see any doubling there. I also don't see any indication of a doubled eye, but I understand that is one of the areas that can be worn away as it is a high spot.

In any case, following are the pics I took.

Any help or addition info as to what to look for is fully appreciated.

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    MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First off, nice photos! Secondly, this is just strike doubling which is caused by loose parts in the press. True hub doubling will show up as notches and/or split serifs on the lettering. Go to Variety Vista to view photos of hub doubling.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mechanical doubling as stated above.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good pics. MD it is.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there a known 1965 DDO? If so, it must look exactly like that. If not, you're looking for unicorns. See varietyvista.com

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hawkowl... Welcome aboard. Definitely mechanical doubling. Great pictures. Cheers, RickO

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    hawkowlhawkowl Posts: 30 ✭✭

    I suspected MD based on an earlier thread I had read here, but I wanted to be sure. I was aware of the notches and/or split serifs MarkKelley mentioned, but I wasn't certain that they might not be worn off in an older coin so as not to be a reliable indicator of a valid DDO.

    Thanks all for the helpful comments.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Is there a known 1965 DDO? If so, it must look exactly like that. If not, you're looking for unicorns. See varietyvista.com

    This should be your approach, to make sure there is a known DD on a particular date/mm before you scrutinize a particular coin for a DD.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MD

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You're looking in the right place with great pictures. That's half the battle here. When you do find one it will jump out at you, trust me!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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    hawkowlhawkowl Posts: 30 ✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Is there a known 1965 DDO? If so, it must look exactly like that. If not, you're looking for unicorns. See varietyvista.com

    This should be your approach, to make sure there is a known DD on a particular date/mm before you scrutinize a particular coin for a DD.

    In answer to both JBK and jmlanzaf, as I understand it there definitely are several known DDOs on 1965 Quarters. They are listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide, on the PCGS website and on Variety Vista, so I assume they are valid. My problem is I have never seen one in the wild, and as I imagine they look differently at different stages of their wear life, I wanted to be sure I was looking for the right markers.

    Thanks to all here for the help in sorting this out.

    And Oakstar, I'm hoping one will jump out any day now. :#

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 9, 2023 7:52PM

    BTW, what mint mark is on this coin?

    Never mind. I just figured it out. 🤪

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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