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Currently at FUN getting graded. Guess their grade… grade posted

AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 5, 2023 4:14PM in U.S. Coin Forum



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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll go with XF40.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will say VF 30 not sure if they use NO D or strong reverse, but one of those 2.

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF30

    When in doubt, don't.
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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F-15

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    20

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    124Spider124Spider Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2023 6:04PM

    This being a special case (1922 No D, strong reverse), one must grade mostly from the reverse. I'll go with VF35 (it appears ever-so-slightly more worn than my VF35 of the same coin).

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    MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF30

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    scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭✭✭

    35?

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    I'll guess VF25, since nobody has guessed it yet.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF 30 No D Strong Reverse


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    ChevyroseChevyrose Posts: 225 ✭✭✭

    Vf 25

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    2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F15

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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF 35

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reverse looks VF, but obverse F. Im going to wager VF20

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    @erwindoc said:
    Reverse looks VF, but obverse F. Im going to wager VF20

    Strike quality was uniformly bad on the obverses of all 1922-D "No D" cents, so that is probably what you are seeing.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF 20

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    WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A+++++🤔

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,704 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20. I don't see enough detail in the wheat stalks to go beyond that.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quite a range of grades we have going here so far. From F15 thru XF40

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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF 25 No D Strong Reverse.

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    DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "22" doesn't look right to me. Fake?

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    AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:
    The "22" doesn't look right to me. Fake?

    Nope.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it may get a 30.... Cheers, RickO

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It seems just a tad better than the VF20 I have so I'll go VF25, but will not be shocked if it grades higher.

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    AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:
    The "22" doesn't look right to me. Fake?

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20

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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a Lincoln expert, but to me that second "2" looks pretty fishy.

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    AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rollerman said:
    Not a Lincoln expert, but to me that second "2" looks pretty fishy.

    Did you see the second photo?

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    DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AlanSki said:

    @DisneyFan said:
    The "22" doesn't look right to me. Fake?

    If this is the same coin (I believe it is); it looks good!

    This is an example of why I am afraid to buy coins based on a picture. Normally, I don't even participate in GTGs. Since my opportunities for in hand inspections are very limited, it seems to me the only option is to buy CAC coins that "appear" to be eye appealing.

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    AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:

    @AlanSki said:

    @DisneyFan said:
    The "22" doesn't look right to me. Fake?

    If this is the same coin (I believe it is); it looks good!

    This is an example of why I am afraid to buy coins based on a picture. Normally, I don't even participate in GTGs. Since my opportunities for in hand inspections are very limited, it seems to me the only option is to buy CAC coins that "appear" to be eye appealing.

    I actually bought this coin inside a $100 dansco on eBay. 90% of the coins were garbage but this was in the correct spot. The 09S, 14D and 31S were all cleaned to hell.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AlanSki Is this show turn around or are we going to have to wait months until you get it back?

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    AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 show turnaround

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    MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20

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    124Spider124Spider Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Reverse looks VF, but obverse F. Im going to wager VF20

    Strike quality was uniformly bad on the obverses of all 1922-D "No D" cents, so that is probably what you are seeing.

    I suspect that it's not so much the quality of the strike, generally, as a die polished to within an angstrom of its life (hence no "D").

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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 415 ✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2023 4:13PM

    @124Spider said:

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Reverse looks VF, but obverse F. Im going to wager VF20

    Strike quality was uniformly bad on the obverses of all 1922-D "No D" cents, so that is probably what you are seeing.

    I suspect that it's not so much the quality of the strike, generally, as a die polished to within an angstrom of its life (hence no "D").

    I saw somewhere that the reason for the missing "D" was some debris that built up in the mintmark recess on the die. I also remember reading that there were very few cent dies that year, and they got overworked. It was definitely not caused by die polish, because they only polish the fields of the coin, which are the high spots on the die.

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    AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    124Spider124Spider Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2023 4:12PM

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @124Spider said:

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Reverse looks VF, but obverse F. Im going to wager VF20

    Strike quality was uniformly bad on the obverses of all 1922-D "No D" cents, so that is probably what you are seeing.

    I suspect that it's not so much the quality of the strike, generally, as a die polished to within an angstrom of its life (hence no "D").

    I'm pretty sure the reason for the filled "D" was some debris that built up in the mintmark recess. I also remember from somewhere that there were very few cent dies that year, and they got overworked. It was definitely not caused by die polish, because they only polish the fields of the coin, which are the high spots on the die.

    Neither one of us seems to be entirely correct!

    FWIW: From PCGS coinfacts:

    In 1922, the Denver Mint was the only Mint which produced cents for that year. Consequently, all 1922 cents should bare the D mint mark. However, since the Denver Mint was under extreme pressure to produce cents for that year, there was a lot of sloppiness in the production process.

    The 1922 No D is believed to exist due to a pair of dies clashing with one another without a coin being in between the two dies. As a result, it is believed that a mint employee obtained an old obverse die and filed it down in order to improve its appearance. But instead, the mint employee ended up filing the D mint mark too much, and in return, created the 1922 No D Lincoln cents.

    The 1922 No D Lincoln cent has always been recognized as a major variety within the Lincoln cent series. Due to its popularity this coin has always commanded a hefty premium.

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    NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also think VF20, No D Strong Reverse

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2023 4:37PM

    Wow, F15 seems a bit harsh. Silent net grade?

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    AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    Wow, F15 seems a bit harsh. Silent net grade?

    From what I was told they are grading strict there.

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    ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s a really nice looking 15. I would have guessed higher if I’d seen it sooner.

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    johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2023 4:54PM

    How long are the grading lines?

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While, I may be a tad high with my GTG, I feel that they have been very harsh. JMO
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    AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny010 said:
    How long are the grading lines?

    I had a friend of mine take it for me.

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    VasantiVasanti Posts: 448 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2023 5:08PM

    This one just got me an F12 also. First coin i ever bought years ago.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At least you got a straight no problem and quick grade.

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny010 said:
    How long are the grading lines?

    Less than 1 hour wait

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    a good find and nice getting an answer so soon as to how they would grade it.

    i need to go back and look up some other subs for this type and see why my estimated grade was so far off. i know these are a bit wonky to grade and all but that seems a little low even though i didn't post a grade estimate here.

    thanks for the journey from album pick to grade alanski.

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    124Spider124Spider Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another spectacular illustration of why I don't spend real money on raw coins!

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2023 4:52PM

    @johnny010 said:
    How long are the grading lines?

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