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There's Fake Gold in them thar Hills,,,

burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

Several recent bad slabbed foreign gold including 1 bad "PCGS" in the current bad holder and 2 NGC's:

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Scary

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :o Wow... Can you list the points defining the fake PCGS example? @burfle23... Thank you...
    Cheers, RickO

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    dollarfandollarfan Posts: 315 ✭✭✭

    Wow this is scary. Burfle23 you are definitely an expert in this. I would think ebay would be offering a consulting gig by now. Keep up the great work and merry Christmas!

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    breakdownbreakdown Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting that NGC identifies them as Possible Counterfeit Holder for the grade. Is that a result of someone (the OP?) notifying NGC of the counterfeits?

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is wrong with the Dragon? Just fake holder or fake coin?

    GrandAm :)
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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 415 ✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2022 8:49AM

    @GRANDAM said:
    What is wrong with the Dragon? Just fake holder or fake coin?

    Look at 2000 and $100. I think that is the giveaway.
    Not sure about the coin, but I would assume it is fake as well.

    Young Numismatist

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    Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 6,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    fake coins me thinks

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    What is wrong with the Dragon? Just fake holder or fake coin?

    if one is i figure the rest of it is as well, fwiw

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yikes! I gravitate towards SLABBED gold for just this reason... counterfeits! This adds a whole new dimension...

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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2022 10:27AM

    Oh, and in the PCGS auction history the same certed one sold 3 times previously...



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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    What is wrong with the Dragon? Just fake holder or fake coin?

    Well, genuine one on the right...


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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any idea where these originate? When did they start appearing?

    All glory is fleeting.
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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the reverse proof must be harder to make

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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did find in my archives a previous bad NGC version of the 2000 Dragon- genuine example on the right:

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    johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damn

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