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There's Fake Gold in them thar Hills,,,

burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Several recent bad slabbed foreign gold including 1 bad "PCGS" in the current bad holder and 2 NGC's:

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Scary

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :o Wow... Can you list the points defining the fake PCGS example? @burfle23... Thank you...
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  • dollarfandollarfan Posts: 315 ✭✭✭

    Wow this is scary. Burfle23 you are definitely an expert in this. I would think ebay would be offering a consulting gig by now. Keep up the great work and merry Christmas!

  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting that NGC identifies them as Possible Counterfeit Holder for the grade. Is that a result of someone (the OP?) notifying NGC of the counterfeits?

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is wrong with the Dragon? Just fake holder or fake coin?

    GrandAm :)
  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2022 7:49AM

    @GRANDAM said:
    What is wrong with the Dragon? Just fake holder or fake coin?

    Look at 2000 and $100. I think that is the giveaway.
    Not sure about the coin, but I would assume it is fake as well.

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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    fake coins me thinks

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,644 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    What is wrong with the Dragon? Just fake holder or fake coin?

    if one is i figure the rest of it is as well, fwiw

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yikes! I gravitate towards SLABBED gold for just this reason... counterfeits! This adds a whole new dimension...

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  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2022 9:27AM

    Oh, and in the PCGS auction history the same certed one sold 3 times previously...



  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    What is wrong with the Dragon? Just fake holder or fake coin?

    Well, genuine one on the right...


  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any idea where these originate? When did they start appearing?

    All glory is fleeting.
  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the reverse proof must be harder to make

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did find in my archives a previous bad NGC version of the 2000 Dragon- genuine example on the right:

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damn

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