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Do you think this monster toned peace dollar would slab?

Seller claims to have a backstory to it. My question is, do you think our host would find this Market Acceptable and would slab this one?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195521282598?

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe, but might get a “details” due to environmental damage. I’m thinking it wouldn’t get a “questionable color” though

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Backstory irrelevant. I don't see it grading.

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My money would be on “Details- Environmental Damage”

    Also, the eagles leg has a deep gouge on the reverse, and I find the toning to be way too dark for my liking. It seems like the sellers “backstory” is the reason he priced it the way he did, but I have a feeling that if you went to sell that coin to another dealer they might offer you 10% of that price if you were lucky.

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  • $30 for the coin, $270 for the backstory. Hard pass.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That Peace dollar reminds me of this Jan 2, 2023 Coin World article.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Slab? Yes.

    Slab in a straight-grade holder. No. Goodness no. Even if it did, I wouldn't pay anywhere near that much for it.

  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terrible seller’s images and probably questionable color designation from our host.

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  • split37split37 Posts: 294 ✭✭✭✭

    Details - Questionable Color and Cleaned

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's some pretty ugly toning. How much oil did they rub into that leather pouch before putting the coin in?

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,552 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Uh, no.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :o probably not.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Me thinks that pouch is but a prop. Implying that neatsfoot oil toned that coin?

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good morning
    I’m certain it will slab.😀

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Leave as is and just price cost plus.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Leave as is and just price cost plus.

    Odds of it being the OP’s coin are close to 0%.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 18, 2022 3:12PM

    It looks like one picked up from walkup seller at show - VF but much darker. Dipping it helped. This one more border line. Maybe it tarnished in that leather pouch. Seller said he kept a bunch of them in his garage ( Lake Jackson, TX). Garage prob got 100 plus In summer. Just depends on one’s taste….whether keep as is. would not spend money sending in. That would buy nice Pcgs slabbed MS69 ASE.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think you should stop using the term monster toned in every thread you start.

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,240 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think it will straight grade, I don't think it's attractive, and I don't know how anyone could classify this as monster toning.

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    and I don't know how anyone could classify this as monster toning.

    The same way coins like that sometimes get labelled as "rainbow toning"???

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @airplanenut said:
    and I don't know how anyone could classify this as monster toning.

    The same way coins like that sometimes get labelled as "rainbow toning"???

    True, but when that occurs, it’s usually the seller who’s doing it.

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @MasonG said:

    @airplanenut said:
    and I don't know how anyone could classify this as monster toning.

    The same way coins like that sometimes get labelled as "rainbow toning"???

    True, but when that occurs, it’s usually the seller who’s doing it.

    You mean... like this?

    1896P Morgan Silver Dollar - BEAUTIFUL COLORS!!! GEM!!! Rainbow

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    I think you should stop using the term monster toned in every thread you start.

    Especially if the toning is leather induced...

  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Several years ago I bought a collection with a Morgan dollar in a leather wallet like this one. It had similar toning and it would not straight grade. I cannot remember what the details said.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not only no but hell no. That one's far worse than even the taco bell examples. VoMiT!

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,349 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    I think you should stop using the term monster toned in every thread you start.

    It's all about ebay with this poster. His threads usually seek feedback about ebay coins he selects for attention and then never posts again in the threads he creates.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:

    @coinbuf said:
    I think you should stop using the term monster toned in every thread you start.

    It's all about ebay with this poster. His threads usually seek feedback about ebay coins he selects for attention and then never posts again in the threads he creates.

    For the record, while the exceptions are probably few, he hasn’t used the word “monster” in every thread he’s started and he has posted again to threads he’s created.

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  • al410al410 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 18, 2022 6:04PM

    No and the term "monster" is being used very loosely! But to each his own
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,240 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe we should consider that sometimes monsters are scary and ugly

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would take it for $30.

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coinage descriptions are always in the eye of the beholder. Right or wrong that's how they see it.

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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For $300, do you get the leather pouch? Just sayin'

    (and I don't care for the coin at all at anything above melt).

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    "Monster toned" suggests beautifully toned. From the images I would not categorize this as beautifully toned.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    does it matter? if you buy that you would already be buried and sending somewhere would bury purchaser even more.

  • slider23slider23 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭✭

    I would not call the toning monster. Most Peace Dollars tone ugly, and the example is better than most Peace Dollars with splotchy toning. The Peace Dollar may have naturally toned in the wallet, but that does not mean PCGS is going to straight grade the coin. The seller's asking price is already in the range of a nice toned Peace Dollar in a PCGS holder with a straight grade.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    Coinage descriptions are always in the eye of the beholder. Right or wrong that's how they see it.

    I don't believe that sellers who hype coins, necessarily "see it" (them) the way they describe it (them).

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