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Gold $1787, Palladium $1635 - Update, Gold $1815, Palladium $1314

OverdateOverdate Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 24, 2023 5:35AM in Precious Metals

Big drop in palladium the past few days, anyone know why?

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  • RobMRobM Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2022 1:02PM

    I'm not sure. Some of it is due to dollar strength. But it may have more to do with big slump in November China automobile sales that was reported last week. Even look at the US automobile situation (Carvana as an example). Rising interest rates are hurting sales even as prices fell on used cars. Also, with the Pd/Pt price differential and the Russia/Ukraine situation, manufacturers are likely gradually switching over to catalytic converter designs that use more Pt and less Pd. That is why, despite all the supply chain issues in automotive industry, Pt is kind of hanging in there (best PM performer over the past 6 months).

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lately I have seen an increase in theft reports of the catalytic converters.... Going to need to do something to curtail that activity. Cheers, RickO

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure about palladium's price volatility but the dip is the place to buy. And the gold... it's to hold. Seems cheap at $1787 when the Mint sells it for $2760.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,561 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It seems to keep spreading apart:
    Gold: 1815
    Palladium: 1600

  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 21, 2022 8:36AM

    I bought my first (and only) ounce of palladium in the 1990’s for $150. I stretched because it was a palladium Panda in a cool wooden box, spot was $125. I sold it at Harlan Berks first time it hit $1000 long time ago. There was no way I was getting roped into the latest run up.

  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭✭

    The long-term demand (auto) variable for both palladium and platinum scares me. Also, if Putin is ever removed you will have stockpiles from Russia hitting the open market.

    Remember, palladium was $175/oz. in the 1990's (1/2 the price of gold) and that's with auto demand ripping.

  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gold $1865.
    Palladium $1464.
    Spread $401.

    For some reason, Palladium Eagles still seem to be selling for well over $2000 each.

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  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭✭

    @Overdate said:
    Gold $1865.
    Palladium $1464.
    Spread $401.

    For some reason, Palladium Eagles still seem to be selling for well over $2000 each.

    I think it's just inertia. I expect gold to sell for 2x the price of palladium in the next few years. I believe the premium on Palladium Eagles will collapse like the early premiums on SSCA gold stuff.

  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gold $1815.
    Palladium $1314.
    Spread now $501.

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  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2023 8:23AM

    @Overdate said:
    Gold $1815.
    Palladium $1314.
    Spread now $501.

    Wow, it moved $100 in 2 weeks ? :o

    I believe it will be over $1,000 in a few years.

  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The spread continues to grow. Gold at $2020 and Palladium at $951. At current prices the $2000 Palladium Eagle has passed the 100% premium point. The bottom has dropped out of Palladium. Spread in spot is now $1070.

  • RobMRobM Posts: 524 ✭✭✭

    It might fall even further to $700-800. No reason why Pd needs to cost more than Pt. Pt has hung around $900-$1000 over the past year. The fed needs to wait for recession to even begin to think about rate cuts New car sales will fall a lot between now and then.. Not particularly good for any of the PT group metals.

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